In message , at 09:58:59 on Fri, 1 Jul 2016,
tim... remarked:
They are illegal on both sides of the Channel already, and the UK has
its own immigration controls in place already. Brexit won't change
anything there. Something else is apparently not working, that won't be
fixed by leaving the EU.

agreed

but almost no-one voted to Leave because they thought it might solve
the problem of the camps at Calais.

So Farage's infamous poster had no effect at all? What a waste of his
money.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 09:58:59 on Fri, 1 Jul 2016,
tim... remarked:
They are illegal on both sides of the Channel already, and the UK has
its own immigration controls in place already. Brexit won't change
anything there. Something else is apparently not working, that won't be
fixed by leaving the EU.

agreed

but almost no-one voted to Leave because they thought it might solve the
problem of the camps at Calais.

So Farage's infamous poster had no effect at all? What a waste of his
money.

Which of Farage's posters said "Vote leave and the queues of people trying
to *illegally* enter Britain will disappear?"

Brexit is all about legal immigrants, the people queuing up at Calais are
illegals

tim

In message , at 14:27:14 on Fri, 1 Jul 2016,
tim... remarked:
So Farage's infamous poster had no effect at all? What a waste of his
money.

Which of Farage's posters said "Vote leave and the queues of people
trying to *illegally* enter Britain will disappear?"

The one you claimed not to have seen.

Brexit is all about legal immigrants, the people queuing up at Calais
are illegals

Er, no. Brexit is also about (or so the leave voters were told) reducing
legal immigrants, as well as being able to come down harder on illegal
immigrants.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 14:27:14 on Fri, 1 Jul 2016,
tim... remarked:
So Farage's infamous poster had no effect at all? What a waste of his
money.

Which of Farage's posters said "Vote leave and the queues of people trying
to *illegally* enter Britain will disappear?"

The one you claimed not to have seen.

why do you doubt that claim?

Brexit is all about legal immigrants, the people queuing up at Calais are
illegals

Er, no. Brexit is also about (or so the leave voters were told) reducing
legal immigrants,

Yeah, that's what I said

as well as being able to come down harder on illegal immigrants.

Oh no it's not

tim

In message , at 18:10:48 on Fri, 1 Jul 2016,
tim... remarked:

So Farage's infamous poster had no effect at all? What a waste of
his money.

Which of Farage's posters said "Vote leave and the queues of people
trying to *illegally* enter Britain will disappear?"

The one you claimed not to have seen.

why do you doubt that claim?

I don't doubt the claim, I'm just a bit surprised that someone who is
therefore so out of touch with current affairs feels his opinions should
be taken seriously.

Brexit is all about legal immigrants, the people queuing up at Calais
are illegals

Er, no. Brexit is also about (or so the leave voters were told)
reducing legal immigrants,

Yeah, that's what I said

as well as being able to come down harder on illegal immigrants.

Oh no it's not

See the poster dear Liza.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 18:10:48 on Fri, 1 Jul 2016,
tim... remarked:

So Farage's infamous poster had no effect at all? What a waste of his
money.

Which of Farage's posters said "Vote leave and the queues of people
trying to *illegally* enter Britain will disappear?"

The one you claimed not to have seen.

why do you doubt that claim?

I don't doubt the claim, I'm just a bit surprised that someone who is
therefore so out of touch with current affairs feels his opinions should
be taken seriously.

you are being ridiculous

I didn't see the picture, so what?

I did see all the media coverage of it

how does that make me out of touch?

Brexit is all about legal immigrants, the people queuing up at Calais
are illegals

Er, no. Brexit is also about (or so the leave voters were told) reducing
legal immigrants,

Yeah, that's what I said

as well as being able to come down harder on illegal immigrants.

Oh no it's not

See the poster dear Liza.

The discussion was on Brexit's (expected) impact on immigration

see above "Brexit is all about legal immigrants"

Not what the poster said.

It has been claimed many times that some of the posters bore no relationship
to the (overall) argument (often with reason). Why have you suddenly
decided that one of the posters (and the one that got the most flack) should
be taken at face value just because it suits your minuscule little debating
point.

tim




--
Roland Perry

In message , at 11:14:44 on Sat, 2 Jul 2016,
tim... remarked:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 18:10:48 on Fri, 1 Jul
2016, tim... remarked:

So Farage's infamous poster had no effect at all? What a waste of
his money.

Which of Farage's posters said "Vote leave and the queues of people
trying to *illegally* enter Britain will disappear?"

The one you claimed not to have seen.

why do you doubt that claim?

I don't doubt the claim, I'm just a bit surprised that someone who is
therefore so out of touch with current affairs feels his opinions
should be taken seriously.

you are being ridiculous

I didn't see the picture, so what?

I did see all the media coverage of it

how does that make me out of touch?

As I said before - one picture is worth 1000 words, and you are clearly
vastly underestimating its impact on the vote.

Brexit is all about legal immigrants, the people queuing up at
Calais are illegals

Er, no. Brexit is also about (or so the leave voters were told)
reducing legal immigrants,

Yeah, that's what I said

as well as being able to come down harder on illegal immigrants.

Oh no it's not

See the poster dear Liza.

The discussion was on Brexit's (expected) impact on immigration

see above "Brexit is all about legal immigrants"

Not what the poster said.

It has been claimed many times that some of the posters bore no
relationship to the (overall) argument (often with reason). Why have
you suddenly decided that one of the posters (and the one that got the
most flack) should be taken at face value just because it suits your
minuscule little debating point.

I'm not sure what debating point that is - but it's undeniable that the
main driver for the Leave campaign was immigration, I think they thought
"leave" meant "now all the EU immigrants have to leave".
--
Roland Perry

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
"tim..."
wrote in :

Which of Farage's posters said "Vote leave and the queues of people
trying to *illegally* enter Britain will disappear?"

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com...8&h=498&crop=1

Brexit is all about legal immigrants,

Those would be from other EU countries.
Most of the people on the poster have brown skin and black hair,
some oriental faces among them, and someone wearing a fez or a turban.

They were mainly Syrian refugees crossing from Croatia into Slovenia,
hoping to get to Germany. With or without Brexit, they would not be allowed
to enter the UK.

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 13:55:26 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
Those would be from other EU countries.
Most of the people on the poster have brown skin and black hair,
some oriental faces among them, and someone wearing a fez or a turban.

They were mainly Syrian refugees crossing from Croatia into Slovenia,
hoping to get to Germany. With or without Brexit, they would not be allowed
to enter the UK.

Until they got an EU passport.

--
Spud

wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 13:55:26 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
Those would be from other EU countries.
Most of the people on the poster have brown skin and black hair,
some oriental faces among them, and someone wearing a fez or a turban.

They were mainly Syrian refugees crossing from Croatia into Slovenia,
hoping to get to Germany. With or without Brexit, they would not be allowed
to enter the UK.

Until they got an EU passport.

And how would they get one of those?