On 04/07/16 07:59, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:14:44 on Sat, 2 Jul 2016,
tim... remarked:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 18:10:48 on Fri, 1 Jul
2016, tim... remarked:

So Farage's infamous poster had no effect at all? What a waste of
his money.

Which of Farage's posters said "Vote leave and the queues of
people trying to *illegally* enter Britain will disappear?"

The one you claimed not to have seen.

why do you doubt that claim?

I don't doubt the claim, I'm just a bit surprised that someone who is
therefore so out of touch with current affairs feels his opinions
should be taken seriously.

you are being ridiculous

I didn't see the picture, so what?

I did see all the media coverage of it

how does that make me out of touch?

As I said before - one picture is worth 1000 words, and you are clearly
vastly underestimating its impact on the vote.

Brexit is all about legal immigrants, the people queuing up at
Calais are illegals

Er, no. Brexit is also about (or so the leave voters were told)
reducing legal immigrants,

Yeah, that's what I said

as well as being able to come down harder on illegal immigrants.

Oh no it's not

See the poster dear Liza.

The discussion was on Brexit's (expected) impact on immigration

see above "Brexit is all about legal immigrants"

Not what the poster said.

It has been claimed many times that some of the posters bore no
relationship to the (overall) argument (often with reason). Why have
you suddenly decided that one of the posters (and the one that got the
most flack) should be taken at face value just because it suits your
minuscule little debating point.

I'm not sure what debating point that is - but it's undeniable that the
main driver for the Leave campaign was immigration, I think they thought
"leave" meant "now all the EU immigrants have to leave".
I met someone who thought it meant exactly that as well as the fact that
we had left the EU the moment the election was announced and they would
be rounded up and kicked out within days. He was already sadly
disillusion and probably even more so by now.

The problem is that there are so many divorce possibilities that no
leave person actually knew what they did vote for. It's a monumental
muddle created by the leave political people. The stay political people
are no better, they were just complacent.

In my view political people do not actually have a mandate to negotiate
any particular "settlement" with the rest of the EU as none was offered
for the electorate to vote on.. It's an absolute muddle.