(Mark Bestley) wrote:

Des Citymapper use actual time tables or does ot just take average times
- I have trmoved one app bevause of that and think it was this one

Good question. I assumed it uses actual timetables as the journey times vary
depending on when you choose to depart, but I suppose that might not be the
case.

Hmmm... Apparently Google Maps is adding transit delays...

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/07...to-some-users/

Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
Hmmm... Apparently Google Maps is adding transit delays...

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/07...to-some-users/

I learnt to distrust Google Maps transit times when I got off the Caltrain
at Mountain View to catch the VTA light rail, to discover that most of the
route had been bustituted and was completely different from the times Google
Maps told me (taking an extra hour). If Google can't cope with scheduled
service changes /in their home town/ I don't think there's much hope for the
rest of us.

Theo

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:49:30 +0100
Clive Page wrote:

So for this rather simple cross-London journey both main journey
planners failed badly

Why would anyone need a machine to plan their trip?

You must be pretty stupid if you can not plan
your own route.

"burfordTjustice" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:49:30 +0100
Clive Page wrote:

So for this rather simple cross-London journey both main journey
planners failed badly

Why would anyone need a machine to plan their trip?

You must be pretty stupid if you can not plan
your own route.



Luton airport is an awkward destination because there are fast trains, semi
fast trains and slow trains

Getting to the airport at time X and taking the first train may not be the
smart thing to do

tim

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 19:28:28 +0100
"tim..." wrote:


"burfordTjustice" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:49:30 +0100
Clive Page wrote:

So for this rather simple cross-London journey both main journey
planners failed badly

Why would anyone need a machine to plan their trip?

You must be pretty stupid if you can not plan
your own route.



Luton airport is an awkward destination because there are fast
trains, semi fast trains and slow trains

Getting to the airport at time X and taking the first train may not
be the smart thing to do

tim


So you are stupid and dependent on someone's machine to figure
things out for you. As the op stated seems the machines are
just a stupid.
Care for your self and not be dependent on government
or others to care for you...

Damn folks Man up and tend to yourself and families.

On 16/07/2016 16:26, burfordTjustice wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:49:30 +0100
Clive Page wrote:

So for this rather simple cross-London journey both main journey
planners failed badly

Why would anyone need a machine to plan their trip?

You must be pretty stupid if you can not plan
your own route.

Thank you for those kind and perceptive comments.

As I explained, there are (at least) three routes with similar timings,
and it required detailed study of timetables for Thameslink, EMT, and SE
trains, plus getting estimates of times on Northern, Jubilee, and
Circle/District lines, as well as checking for the effects of weekend
engineering works, to work out the best route for any given departure
time. This is the sort of job that ought to be ideally suited to
computers. We have had on-line journey planners for at least 15 years
now, but it seems to me that they are still stuck in the 20th Century,
and have hardly advanced in all that time.

Of course one can do all the work oneself and in this case I had to but
it took me the best part of half-an-hour, but I really don't understand
why there is not a single on-line journey planner that can do the work
much more quickly and reliably.


-- l
Clive Page

In message , at 09:18:45 on Sun, 17
Jul 2016, Clive Page remarked:
Of course one can do all the work oneself and in this case I had to but
it took me the best part of half-an-hour, but I really don't understand
why there is not a single on-line journey planner that can do the work
much more quickly and reliably.

Ever since the government scrapped the "Transport Direct", I use Google
Maps. It's simple and reliable.
--
Roland Perry

On 17/07/2016 10:02, Roland Perry wrote:
Ever since the government scrapped the "Transport Direct", I use Google
Maps. It's simple and reliable.

Do you know whether it has up-to-date info on engineering works etc? I
tried to find out but Google's algorithms seem to be hidden.


--
Clive Page

In article , (Clive Page)
wrote:

On 17/07/2016 10:02, Roland Perry wrote:
Ever since the government scrapped the "Transport Direct", I use Google
Maps. It's simple and reliable.

Do you know whether it has up-to-date info on engineering works etc?
I tried to find out but Google's algorithms seem to be hidden.

Not hard to check if it respects which trains are not calling at London
Bridge now, surely?

--
Colin Rosenstiel