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In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 17:12:48 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote:

I don't suppose the maps are applied in the factory with the production
trains. They'll be stuck in and updated as needed by the operator.

But will the initial trains even be labelled as 'Elizabeth Line'? I
thought the new name would only be used once the trains can use the
tunnel.

No they won't. TfL Rail applies until Dec 2018. It will apply even
when TfL take Heathrow Connect services in May 2018. All changes come
Dec 2018. See the footnotes to this press release about Paddington
Bakerloo Line reopening.


https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/pr...kerloo-line-se
rves-paddington-station-again-from-today

Was Crossrail/Elizabeth line always only going to terminate at Terminal 4 in
Heathrow?

It replaces Heathrow Connect, which terminates at T4. HEx has T5. But I
still doubt the long term future of HEx. If it gets merged into Crossrail,
then all the terminals would be served by the same Tube and Rail services,
which would be much simpler.

What's particularly confusing to a visitor today is that the HCon station
in T4 is labelled as a HEx, not a HCon station, despite the fact that only
HCon trains serve it:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/26830662545/in/photolist-FXuZNR-GSWad6-GsQvXd-GsQvRS-GsQuX7-GsQw19-GJDBvL

If/when the western link opens, and there are through trains, then I'm sure
Crossrail will have to serve T5.

Recliner wrote:
It replaces Heathrow Connect, which terminates at T4. HEx has T5. But I
still doubt the long term future of HEx. If it gets merged into Crossrail,
then all the terminals would be served by the same Tube and Rail services,
which would be much simpler.

Assuming a unified fares structure, does the layout preclude HEx
trains running into the Crossrail tunnel? eg fast Heathrow-Paddington, then
taking the tunnel and going to Abbey Wood, say? I can understand Heathrow
passengers not wanting an additional 6 stops between Heathrow and
Paddington.

Actually, I don't think I've seen the service pattern fully described
anywhere. (ie which branches will be joined together, what will fast and
slow trains do, how many trains will turn back and where - the 'route
diagrams', not just 'X trains per hour to central London'). Has it been
publically stated?

Theo

On 03 Aug 2016 11:29:56 +0100 (BST), Theo
wrote:

Recliner wrote:
It replaces Heathrow Connect, which terminates at T4. HEx has T5. But I
still doubt the long term future of HEx. If it gets merged into Crossrail,
then all the terminals would be served by the same Tube and Rail services,
which would be much simpler.

Assuming a unified fares structure, does the layout preclude HEx
trains running into the Crossrail tunnel? eg fast Heathrow-Paddington, then
taking the tunnel and going to Abbey Wood, say? I can understand Heathrow
passengers not wanting an additional 6 stops between Heathrow and
Paddington.

No, only the Relief lines are connected to the tunnel. Trains on the
Main lines would have to cross the Reliefs on the flat to access the
tunnel.


Actually, I don't think I've seen the service pattern fully described
anywhere. (ie which branches will be joined together, what will fast and
slow trains do, how many trains will turn back and where - the 'route
diagrams', not just 'X trains per hour to central London'). Has it been
publically stated?

From memory, there will be four Abbey Wood trains an hour to Heathrow.
The two Reading trains will go to the Shenfield branch. All the
Crossrail trains are, I think, stoppers.