"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On 2016-09-27 17:11:28 +0000, Roland Perry said:

You've never been in a Tesco Express, then?

Of course I have (I do quite often, I don't tend to use full size
supermarkets in person, rather if I want to do that I have a delivery),
and that indeed offers that part of the business model, albeit generally
at a higher price. Companies don't necessarily have to have totally
unique business models, you know

So they'll have a pile of mixed trays of cottage cheese, cottage cheese
with pineapple and cottage cheese with something else [chives maybe], and
people have gone through picking out all the plain cottage cheese,
leaving a sorry pile of all those other sorts that no-one [especially me]
wants.

Yes, I've hit issues with that, they won't get a new one out until it's
all gone.

Of course, their non-food takes these features to extremes, with much of
the stock being for sale for only a few weeks a year, and bins full of
clothing that within a day or two are entirely the unpopular sizes no-one
wants.

That's a very German thing, there are other variants e.g. the Tchibo
coffee chain which is a curious combination of Costalottabucks, Argos (for
order) and the Aldi non-food section. The concept fits the typical German
small shop quite well.

IME doesn't work well there either.

More than once I raked over the cheese or the dessert-pot selection and
walked away without my desired variety. (that was in pennymarkt, one of the
numerous German stores which has competed with the aldilidl model by copying
it)

tim

"Recliner" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:45:17 on Wed, 28
Sep 2016, Neil Williams remarked:

I'm no sure which part of their costs you think were significantly
higher - they had one of the oldest fleets in the air, and the other
two one of the newest. That must impact the cost.

The easyJet and Ryanair argument is that good deals on new planes are
actually cheaper to operate overall - highly reliable, for example.

So BMIbaby's problem was an incompetent fleet purchasing department?

No. The problem was a lack of strategy.

surely their biggest problem was focussing on flying from airports that
almost nobody found convenient to fly from (or to)

tim

tim... wrote:

"Recliner" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:45:17 on Wed, 28
Sep 2016, Neil Williams remarked:

I'm no sure which part of their costs you think were significantly
higher - they had one of the oldest fleets in the air, and the other
two one of the newest. That must impact the cost.

The easyJet and Ryanair argument is that good deals on new planes are
actually cheaper to operate overall - highly reliable, for example.

So BMIbaby's problem was an incompetent fleet purchasing department?

No. The problem was a lack of strategy.

surely their biggest problem was focussing on flying from airports that
almost nobody found convenient to fly from (or to)

That sounds more like Ryanair, which seems to thrive regardless.

On 2016-09-28 15:13:42 +0000, Recliner said:

That sounds more like Ryanair, which seems to thrive regardless.

Sometimes those airports are actually more convenient. Bergamo might
be a nuisance if you're going to Milan, but is really quite good if you
wish to hire a car and drive to the Garda/Sirmione region. And it's a
very nice modern airport. Gdansk isn't very near any large Polish
cities, but it's quite useful when you want to go to, er, Gdansk, as I
did a few weeks ago. Luton might be a nuisance if going to London, but
is very convenient for the south and east Midlands and north end of the
Home Counties. Stansted, well, isn't near very much, I'll give you.

The low-cost airline market has developed well beyond low-cost city
breaks these days.

Neil
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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the @ to reply.

It is clear from the piles in the vacuum packed pasta selection that I am
not the only person who doesn't like gnocchi. ...

Quite how Aldi cannot learn from this and realise that they need to order
from their suppliers in 40-40-20 ratio rather than 33-33-33 defeats me. I
thought they prided themselves on their management ability

More likely there are other parts of the country where people love
gnocchi and leave stacks of tortellini.

As the saying goes, perhaps you need to get out more.

Helpfully,
John

PS: The Aldis in the US do the same thing, so perhaps the packs are
averaged over multiple countries, and we are at the mercy of gnocchi
lovers in Poland.

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:05:54 on
Mon, 26 Sep 2016, Recliner remarked:

In message , at 09:08:36 on Mon, 26 Sep
2016, tim... remarked:

If you're prepared to pay 50 grand for a new car, perhaps

I was astonished to see *second hand* Land Rover Discos for sale on a
forecourt for more than 50k. Some people have money to burn.

Yes, that is a lot. It must have been loaded with extras.

"It" - there were loads[1], perhaps not very old, but there have always
been a lot of very low mileage Discos for sale. People buying them
expecting a cheap Range Rover not an expensive Defender, perhaps?

The new, more upmarket Disco 5 is expected to have an entry price of
~£45k for the 2 litre diesel version when it ships next year. The
top-end Disco price is likely to be around £60k or more, before
options.

[1] https://goo.gl/maps/zNthwYkdsQ42
https://www.hunterslandrover.co.uk/c...ock/?ranges=Di
scovery&price=1000-110000&age=5&co2emissions=1-400&sortType=combinedmpg&
sortOrder=desc&view=list-view%20vtype-car&p=1
Says they have fifteen for sale In Guildford. Most expensive this
week £43,499; others in the chain have them up to £51,500.
https://www.hunterslandrover.co.uk/v...ery/discovery-
30-sdv6-landmark/discovery-30-sdv6-landmark-pk16mbf-2793321/

The new 2017 model:
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/brit...over-discovery

"Prices start at £43,495 for the Discovery S, and the 600-unit limited
First Edition – which features a map etched into the aluminium on the doors
and dash – costs £68,295."

In message
-septe
mber.org, at 22:22:50 on Wed, 28 Sep 2016, Recliner
remarked:

Says they have fifteen for sale In Guildford. Most expensive this
week £43,499; others in the chain have them up to £51,500.
https://www.hunterslandrover.co.uk/v...ery/discovery-
30-sdv6-landmark/discovery-30-sdv6-landmark-pk16mbf-2793321/

The new 2017 model:
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/brit...over-discovery

"Prices start at £43,495 for the Discovery S, and the 600-unit limited
First Edition – which features a map etched into the aluminium on the doors
and dash – costs £68,295."

Doesn't change the fact I wouldn't pay £50k for a second hand one.
--
Roland Perry

"John Levine" wrote in message
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It is clear from the piles in the vacuum packed pasta selection that I am
not the only person who doesn't like gnocchi. ...

Quite how Aldi cannot learn from this and realise that they need to order
from their suppliers in 40-40-20 ratio rather than 33-33-33 defeats me. I
thought they prided themselves on their management ability

More likely there are other parts of the country where people love
gnocchi and leave stacks of tortellini.

don't think so.

It is a routinely dull food item.

As the saying goes, perhaps you need to get out more.

That's uncalled for. I would be willing to bet that I knew what gnocchi was
(and discovered that I didn't like it - even when made fresh and not
disadvantaged by a cheap manufacturing process) long before the majority of
the UK population even knew it existed- 1982).


Helpfully,

Or not

John

PS: The Aldis in the US do the same thing, so perhaps the packs are
averaged over multiple countries, and we are at the mercy of gnocchi
lovers in Poland.

As it would need to be repackage with Polish details, I doubt that.

There are loads of products that Aldi do not sell in every country, and
there are some German ones that I wish I could buy here

tim

"Recliner" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:

"Recliner" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:45:17 on Wed, 28
Sep 2016, Neil Williams remarked:

I'm no sure which part of their costs you think were significantly
higher - they had one of the oldest fleets in the air, and the other
two one of the newest. That must impact the cost.

The easyJet and Ryanair argument is that good deals on new planes are
actually cheaper to operate overall - highly reliable, for example.

So BMIbaby's problem was an incompetent fleet purchasing department?

No. The problem was a lack of strategy.

surely their biggest problem was focussing on flying from airports that
almost nobody found convenient to fly from (or to)

That sounds more like Ryanair, which seems to thrive regardless.


The problem with BMIB was that they only flew from one region of the country
(the midlands) [1] which presumably wasn't a big enough catchment for the
quantity/type of flights that they offered.

Not that the individual airports were inconvenient (though for PT access,
one of them was)

[1] that's all Wikipedia will admit to, did they fly (to Europe) from
elsewhere?

tim

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On 2016-09-28 15:13:42 +0000, Recliner said:

That sounds more like Ryanair, which seems to thrive regardless.

Sometimes those airports are actually more convenient. Bergamo might be a
nuisance if you're going to Milan, but is really quite good if you wish to
hire a car and drive to the Garda/Sirmione region. And it's a very nice
modern airport. Gdansk isn't very near any large Polish cities,

Gdansk-Gdynia would be the third largest city in Poland if it were one
single city

None of the other large towns has a twin bordering it.

I used to fly with Ryan to MMX and NRN as they were both more convenient to
my final destination than the main alternatives. Though they are both a
bitch for PT and you need to have arranged onwards transportation by
car/coach.

tim