I walked past Clarks at South Woodford Station
yesterday. They had a sign in their window, saying:
DRIVERS WANTED.

That's quite normal with London minicab firms, but
I've never seen Clarks do it before.

That sounds simpler than the use of Giant Haystacks at Morden.

[quote='Paul Corfield[_2_];158893']On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 11:04:22 +0200, Robin9
wrote:


The Wanstead And Woodford Recorder - a new freebie -
has a report about reducing noise on one section of the
Central Line.

"An innovative new technique will be used to reduce noise
from the Tube between Woodford and South Woodford,
the Mayor of London has stated.

Sadiq Khan explained that a system of "rail damping" will
quieten the wheel when it rubs against the track on what
is known as one of the loudest sections of the Central Line."

The report quotes local politicians saying reducing overcrowding
on the Central Line is far more important, with which I agree.


However politicians representing people living near any track covered
by Night Tube services have been shouting and screaming and demanding
action on track works to reduce noise from trains running overnight.
Surely you don't begrudge the locals better quality, quieter track?

And the recent adjustment to peak service levels on the top bit of the
Hainault loop was precisely to add more trains to the Epping line to
reduce overcrowding.

There is not going to be any substantive improvement to Central Line
frequencies until it's upgraded sometime in the late 2020/early 2030s.
TfL will be lucky if it can stop the 92 stock falling to bits before
then. Working it harder is not going to be top of their shopping list..

No-one will wish to deny people a good night's sleep. In fact
I know two people who live very close to that stretch of the
Central Line; one at the bottom end of Churchfields and one
at the top of Gordon Road. (When the line was a branch line
from Stratford out of Liverpool Street, Churchfields and
Gordon Road was a through road with a level crossing)

And yes, I recognise that increasing the frequency of trains
on the Central Line is close to impossible.

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and as an update to the position

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7487316.html


In other news:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ets-found-cut/

but I don't think that this just an Uber story

It's another of those examples of the autonomous car "industry" thinking
that they are going to be able to run before they can walk. I remain
convinced that regulatory acceptance of self driving cars is 10 rather than
5 years away (and mass market affordability 20)

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tim... wrote:


"tim..." wrote in message
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posted without comment (for now)

tim



and as an update to the position

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7487316.html

Yes, Uber's normal business model: burn cash for market share.


In other news:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ets-found-cut/

but I don't think that this just an Uber story

It's another of those examples of the autonomous car "industry" thinking
that they are going to be able to run before they can walk. I remain
convinced that regulatory acceptance of self driving cars is 10 rather than
5 years away (and mass market affordability 20)

I think commercial deployment will be phased. Autonomous driving will first
be allowed on specific roads only, such as motorways, for which the
technology is almost ready. General purpose autonomous driving on any
random road is much further away.

On 2016-12-22 02:03:41 +0000, Recliner said:

I think commercial deployment will be phased. Autonomous driving will first
be allowed on specific roads only, such as motorways, for which the
technology is almost ready. General purpose autonomous driving on any
random road is much further away.

Agreed. What I'd anticipate is something like a motorway being split
from 4 lanes into 2 x 2 lanes with a concrete block in between the two,
and if you have an autonomous car you can join the autonomous lanes and
take advantage of a smoother journey, otherwise you stay in the main
ones.

It's an awful lot easier to do autonomous driving well if the other
cars are all autonomous too.

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In message
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ember.org, at 02:03:41 on Thu, 22 Dec 2016, Recliner
remarked:
and as an update to the position

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-lyft-chinese-
operation-a7487316.html

Yes, Uber's normal business model: burn cash for market share.

It took Amazon ten years to become profitable.

In other news:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ets-found-cut/

but I don't think that this just an Uber story

It's another of those examples of the autonomous car "industry" thinking
that they are going to be able to run before they can walk. I remain
convinced that regulatory acceptance of self driving cars is 10 rather than
5 years away (and mass market affordability 20)

Sounds about right.

I think commercial deployment will be phased. Autonomous driving will first
be allowed on specific roads only, such as motorways, for which the
technology is almost ready.

Whatever happened to the HGV-platoons announced by the government about
a year ago?

General purpose autonomous driving on any random road is much further
away.

--
Roland Perry

In message , at 10:39:02 on Thu, 22
Dec 2016, Neil Williams remarked:
I think commercial deployment will be phased. Autonomous driving will first
be allowed on specific roads only, such as motorways, for which the
technology is almost ready. General purpose autonomous driving on any
random road is much further away.

Agreed. What I'd anticipate is something like a motorway being split
from 4 lanes into 2 x 2 lanes with a concrete block in between the two,
and if you have an autonomous car you can join the autonomous lanes and
take advantage of a smoother journey, otherwise you stay in the main ones.

With a big gap in the concrete block at the most dangerous part of a
motorway - where the cars enter and exit? And would you have automatic
cars carving through two lanes of manually driven ones, or vice versa?
--
Roland Perry

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On 2016-12-22 02:03:41 +0000, Recliner said:

I think commercial deployment will be phased. Autonomous driving will
first
be allowed on specific roads only, such as motorways, for which the
technology is almost ready. General purpose autonomous driving on any
random road is much further away.

Agreed. What I'd anticipate is something like a motorway being split from
4 lanes into 2 x 2 lanes with a concrete block in between the two, and if
you have an autonomous car you can join the autonomous lanes and

You're having a larf!

So with 1% of cars on the road autonomous (which is probably an overestimate
of their sales when they have a starting price of 70 grand), how are they
going to access the inner lanes if the other 99% of the traffic that used to
spread across 4 lanes is now confined to two?

And that's before you consider the political implications of the rich being
allowed to buy themselves a faster journey at the detriment of the little
people. (It's that word detriment that's important here, most ways that the
rich currently buy themselves a better service don't usually impact badly on
the use of similar services by normal people.)

take advantage of a smoother journey, otherwise you stay in the main ones.

It's an awful lot easier to do autonomous driving well if the other cars
are all autonomous too.

Tough

There will always be a real-world need for them to interact with
non-autonomous vehicles. There should be no special deals for them just
because that solution hasn't been invented yet.

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tim... wrote:


"tim..." wrote in message
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and as an update to the position

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7487316.html

Yes, Uber's normal business model: burn cash for market share.


In other news:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...ets-found-cut/

but I don't think that this just an Uber story

It's another of those examples of the autonomous car "industry" thinking
that they are going to be able to run before they can walk. I remain
convinced that regulatory acceptance of self driving cars is 10 rather
than
5 years away (and mass market affordability 20)

I think commercial deployment will be phased. Autonomous driving will
first
be allowed on specific roads only, such as motorways, for which the
technology is almost ready. General purpose autonomous driving on any
random road is much further away.

The problem with this is the need to apportion blame in the event of an
incident

until TPTB are satisfied that autonomous cars are safe (law abiding) enough
for the designated driver to be exonerated of any blame, the driver will
always have to be responsible for any illegal/dangerous action that the car
makes.

This will make it impossible for the driver to do something else (or even be
controlled by a non-driver) whilst the car drives itself

I don't see that this position is any different to having a few driver
aids - adaptive cruise control, lane assist, auto breaking etc, all of which
can (and are) happening without any changes in the rules. (Like I said,
running before we have learnt to walk.)

tim









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