On 26/09/2016 11:19, Roland Perry wrote:

In message
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mber.org, at 08:45:30 on Mon, 26 Sep 2016, Recliner
remarked:

I think the implicit assumption was that people
living and travelling within the London boroughs mainly pay TfL zonal
fares for the Tube, Overground, trams and buses. Relatively few
travellers within London are paying fares set by TOCs, and hence
unaffected by the freeze. But in most remarks and promises, Sadiq
explicitly made clear he was only referring to TfL fares.

The problem is that he didn't. Hence the need for the embarrassing
u-turn when got into office and saw the books.


Point out the "embarrassing u-turn".

You can't, because he performed no such manoeuvre.

You can quibble about the "Londoner's won't pay a penny more for their
travel [...]" line he used, perhaps with a degree of justification, but
there was no U-turn after he "saw the books" - that is nothing more than
a Roland Perry invention!

In message , at 15:10:27 on Tue, 27 Sep
2016, Mizter T remarked:

I think the implicit assumption was that people
living and travelling within the London boroughs mainly pay TfL zonal
fares for the Tube, Overground, trams and buses. Relatively few
travellers within London are paying fares set by TOCs, and hence
unaffected by the freeze. But in most remarks and promises, Sadiq
explicitly made clear he was only referring to TfL fares.

The problem is that he didn't. Hence the need for the embarrassing
u-turn when got into office and saw the books.

Point out the "embarrassing u-turn".

Having to admit that not all Londoners would have their fares capped.

You can quibble about the "Londoner's won't pay a penny more for their
travel [...]" line he used, perhaps with a degree of justification, but
there was no U-turn after he "saw the books" - that is nothing more
than a Roland Perry invention!

And the "single fares only" with:

"Passengers using Travelcards, Oyster cards or pay-as-you-go
contactless cards will not benefit from his plans."

has a distinct aroma of having seen the books, having not previously
realised that only single fares could be protected.

http://www.railmagazine.com/news/net...an-accused-of-
fares-freeze-u-turn
--
Roland Perry

Mizter T wrote:

On 26/09/2016 11:19, Roland Perry wrote:

In message
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mber.org, at 08:45:30 on Mon, 26 Sep 2016, Recliner
remarked:

I think the implicit assumption was that people
living and travelling within the London boroughs mainly pay TfL zonal
fares for the Tube, Overground, trams and buses. Relatively few
travellers within London are paying fares set by TOCs, and hence
unaffected by the freeze. But in most remarks and promises, Sadiq
explicitly made clear he was only referring to TfL fares.

The problem is that he didn't. Hence the need for the embarrassing
u-turn when got into office and saw the books.


Point out the "embarrassing u-turn".

You can't, because he performed no such manoeuvre.

You can quibble about the "Londoner's won't pay a penny more for their
travel [...]" line he used, perhaps with a degree of justification, but
there was no U-turn after he "saw the books" - that is nothing more than
a Roland Perry invention!


In defence of Roland, it was either a U-turn, or alternatively he didn't
need to because he always knew he was lying and would never deliver. I
think Roland's interpretation is the rather more generous.