On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:18:39 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:49:22 on Thu, 13 Oct
2016, d remarked:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 14:30:32 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:07:52 on Thu, 13 Oct
Stalking doesn't "just happen". Even nutters don't pick a random person to
stalk, there's always a reason.

Precisely so. If someone wants to stalk you they'll do irregardless of
an accommodation address on your email domain.

You can't stalk someone you can't find.

Of course you can. You can stalk them at work or even drum roll over
the Internet.

How exactly do you "stalk" someone over a computer network? Send them nasty
emails and tweets? Aww, diddums. Anyone who is bothered by that needs to grow
a pair. And if you can't find someone you can't stalk them at work either can
you? And if you could find them at work you could follow them home too.

Is it? I'd be far more concerned with someone turning up on the doorstep with
a knife than someone sending me nasty texts or emails or finding out my CC
number and buying crap on amazon. YMMV however.

You must lead an exciting life for people to become that upset with you.

It seems to bother you since you're involved in stalking. Perhaps talking
from experience?

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Spud

In message , at 08:28:09 on Mon, 17 Oct
2016, d remarked:

You can't stalk someone you can't find.

Of course you can. You can stalk them at work or even drum roll over
the Internet.

How exactly do you "stalk" someone over a computer network? Send them nasty
emails and tweets? Aww, diddums. Anyone who is bothered by that needs to grow
a pair.

It does bother some people when they get emails like "when you get home
you'll find your cat nailed to the front door" (real example).

It is difficult to know where to draw the line, though, because
different people do react differently to various threat levels.

"You look like a ****ing mutant and should be burnt at the stake, We'll see
what you say when an immigrant rapes you or one of your kids"

(to a Remain supporter). Facebook and Twitter agree with you and say
it's perfectly acceptable to direct comments like that at people.
Although of course that's trolling rather than stalking.

And if you can't find someone you can't stalk them at work either can
you? And if you could find them at work you could follow them home too.

It's not necessarily the case that every work stalker follows the victim
home.

Is it? I'd be far more concerned with someone turning up on the doorstep with
a knife than someone sending me nasty texts or emails or finding out my CC
number and buying crap on amazon. YMMV however.

You must lead an exciting life for people to become that upset with you.

It seems to bother you since you're involved in stalking. Perhaps talking
from experience?

Oddly, we are one of the few organisations working in the subject who
are neither ex-law enforcement or ex-victims (nor of course
perpetrators). We think this gives us added objectivity.
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Roland Perry

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 09:24:45 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
Although of course that's trolling rather than stalking.

Quite.

And if you can't find someone you can't stalk them at work either can
you? And if you could find them at work you could follow them home too.

It's not necessarily the case that every work stalker follows the victim
home.

You'd expect that as the obvious escalation though.

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Spud

In message , at 10:39:50 on Tue, 18 Oct
2016, d remarked:

And if you can't find someone you can't stalk them at work either can
you? And if you could find them at work you could follow them home too.

It's not necessarily the case that every work stalker follows the victim
home.

You'd expect that as the obvious escalation though.

It's one possible escalation. Another might be making false complaints
to the boss about the victim, which depending on their job might be
quite serious for them (falsely accusing a teacher of interfering with
children, for example).
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Roland Perry

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:51:28 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:39:50 on Tue, 18 Oct
2016, d remarked:

And if you can't find someone you can't stalk them at work either can
you? And if you could find them at work you could follow them home too.

It's not necessarily the case that every work stalker follows the victim
home.

You'd expect that as the obvious escalation though.

It's one possible escalation. Another might be making false complaints
to the boss about the victim, which depending on their job might be
quite serious for them (falsely accusing a teacher of interfering with
children, for example).

Thats malicious, but its not stalking as most people would interpret it
though.

--
Spud

In message , at 10:59:48 on Tue, 18 Oct
2016, d remarked:
And if you can't find someone you can't stalk them at work either can
you? And if you could find them at work you could follow them home too.

It's not necessarily the case that every work stalker follows the victim
home.

You'd expect that as the obvious escalation though.

It's one possible escalation. Another might be making false complaints
to the boss about the victim, which depending on their job might be
quite serious for them (falsely accusing a teacher of interfering with
children, for example).

Thats malicious, but its not stalking as most people would interpret it
though.

It is if you are doing it as a course of conduct (two or more things
which harass the victim). Almost no Stalker stops at #1.
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Roland Perry