It only took them 20 years to get the descibers to actually give the time
until the next train from cockfosters instead of no indication at all until
1 minute before a train showed up. Obviously all their rocket scientists were
busy elsewhere.

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Spud

On 2016\10\24 09:41, d wrote:
It only took them 20 years to get the descibers to actually give the time
until the next train from cockfosters instead of no indication at all until
1 minute before a train showed up. Obviously all their rocket scientists were
busy elsewhere.

The software is poorly specified. At Aldgate East eastbound you can hear
the trains coming a few seconds after they appear on the display. Since
most people are not going past Barking, most people don't care if the
next train is a H&C or a District, but it would be nice to know if some
sort of train was coming in the next fifteen minutes. Countdown on bus
stops guesses the order that various buses will arrive in, despite the
fact that they can overtake each and change order, so I don't see why
the Underground indicators have to stay tight-lipped until trains have
got through converging junction. I wonder if the software can be changed
without changing hardware?

I'd like Picc W/B indicators to use their three rows thus...

Acton T @@ H'row T5 @@ H'row T4 @@ Rayners/Uxb
1m 3m 5m @@ 1m 5m 9m @@ 3m 11m 19m @@ 7m 15m 23m
rious delays on the Central Line...Victoria Line normal after earl

On 24/10/2016 15:43, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\10\24 09:41, d wrote:
It only took them 20 years to get the descibers to actually give the time
until the next train from cockfosters instead of no indication at all
until
1 minute before a train showed up. Obviously all their rocket
scientists were
busy elsewhere.

The software is poorly specified. At Aldgate East eastbound you can hear
the trains coming a few seconds after they appear on the display. Since
most people are not going past Barking, most people don't care if the
next train is a H&C or a District, but it would be nice to know if some
sort of train was coming in the next fifteen minutes.

It would be even nicer for Aldgate East westbound, particularly when
heading for e.g. Angel...

On 2016\10\24 16:35, Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 24/10/2016 15:43, Basil Jet wrote:

The software is poorly specified. At Aldgate East eastbound you can hear
the trains coming a few seconds after they appear on the display. Since
most people are not going past Barking, most people don't care if the
next train is a H&C or a District, but it would be nice to know if some
sort of train was coming in the next fifteen minutes.

It would be even nicer for Aldgate East westbound, particularly when
heading for e.g. Angel...

I didn't know there was a problem on the westbound. Didn't they get rid
of the turnaround facility at Whitechapel? There's no excuse for not
giving good info at Aldgate East westbound, unless the describer system
thinks the turnaround at Whitechapel is still there (which wouldn't
surprise me at all, actually).

On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 15:43:24 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\10\24 09:41, d wrote:
It only took them 20 years to get the descibers to actually give the time
until the next train from cockfosters instead of no indication at all until
1 minute before a train showed up. Obviously all their rocket scientists were
busy elsewhere.

The software is poorly specified. At Aldgate East eastbound you can hear
the trains coming a few seconds after they appear on the display. Since
most people are not going past Barking, most people don't care if the
next train is a H&C or a District, but it would be nice to know if some
sort of train was coming in the next fifteen minutes. Countdown on bus

That might be useful. Far better to spend money on pointless and irritating
automated announcements telling you how well the service is running when you're
standing on a platform with 200 other people and no train for the last 10 mins.

stops guesses the order that various buses will arrive in, despite the
fact that they can overtake each and change order, so I don't see why

The bus describers at the stop outside Carluccios in Muswell Hill have been
removed. Thanks TfL.

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Spud

In message of Mon, 24 Oct 2016 15:58:42 in
uk.transport.london, d writes
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 15:43:24 +0100
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\10\24 09:41, d wrote:
It only took them 20 years to get the descibers to actually give the time
until the next train from cockfosters instead of no indication at all until
1 minute before a train showed up. Obviously all their rocket
scientists were
busy elsewhere.

The software is poorly specified. At Aldgate East eastbound you can hear
the trains coming a few seconds after they appear on the display. Since
most people are not going past Barking, most people don't care if the
next train is a H&C or a District, but it would be nice to know if some
sort of train was coming in the next fifteen minutes. Countdown on bus

That might be useful. Far better to spend money on pointless and irritating
automated announcements telling you how well the service is running when you're
standing on a platform with 200 other people and no train for the last 10 mins.

stops guesses the order that various buses will arrive in, despite the
fact that they can overtake each and change order, so I don't see why

The bus describers at the stop outside Carluccios in Muswell Hill have been
removed. Thanks TfL.

Please enquire about that. 03432221234, wait about 10" for announcement
about data usage to finish, key 6 and wait. Get enquiry number and say
you want an answer. Wait 10 working days and then chase.
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Walter Briscoe

On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 22:35:41 +0100
Walter Briscoe wrote:
In message of Mon, 24 Oct 2016 15:58:42 in
The bus describers at the stop outside Carluccios in Muswell Hill have been
removed. Thanks TfL.

Please enquire about that. 03432221234, wait about 10" for announcement
about data usage to finish, key 6 and wait. Get enquiry number and say
you want an answer. Wait 10 working days and then chase.

Sounds about right. Personally I'm not that bothered, I only visit occasionally,
but it must be a ****er for the locals who have no other public transport
there apart from the bus since the idiotic decision to rip up the alexandra
palace branch line back in the day thanks to the usual british disease of
congenital infrastructure myopia.

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Spud

On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 20:10:43 +0000
Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote:
In message , d writes
It only took them 20 years to get the descibers to actually give the time
until the next train from cockfosters instead of no indication at all until
1 minute before a train showed up. Obviously all their rocket scientists were
busy elsewhere.

I read on internal sites that a new signalling system has just been
commissioned on the EAST end of the Piccadilly.

I assume that this has also added this functionality which is a bonus.
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Possibly. OTOH they managed to get time to next train functionality working on
the outer reaches of the northern line back in the late 80s with whatever post
war LNER signalling leftovers they had their so I really don't think they had
any excuse other than corporate indifference and inertia not to get it working
on the picc until 2016.

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Spud