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I've just noticed an interesting anomaly on the Freedom
Pass Map which can be viewed on or downloaded from the Internet. On each route the last station within the Freedom Pass area is shown with a grey line projecting onwards; the grey line being a route where free travel is never available. Understandably, no stations are designated on the grey lines. There is a single, misleading exception: Cheshunt. The Freedom Pass area ends at Enfield Lock and Turkey Street, and on TfL's map the grey lines start from there. But Cheshunt is shown on the map and, to those not perusing cautiously, this suggests that Cheshunt is in the Area. I nearly got caught out this morning. Why has TfL made this single exception? |
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On 14/11/2016 12:41, Robin9 wrote:
I've just noticed an interesting anomaly on the Freedom Pass Map which can be viewed on or downloaded from the Internet. On each route the last station within the Freedom Pass area is shown with a grey line projecting onwards; the grey line being a route where free travel is never available. Understandably, no stations are designated on the grey lines. There is a single, misleading exception: Cheshunt. The Freedom Pass area ends at Enfield Lock and Turkey Street, and on TfL's map the grey lines start from there. But Cheshunt is shown on the map and, to those not perusing cautiously, this suggests that Cheshunt is in the Area. I nearly got caught out this morning. Why has TfL made this single exception? AIUI Cheshunt is not really in the Freedom Pass area. The Freedom Pass is valid for travel to Cheshunt only on TfL's services. Hence the grey line starts at Enfield Lock. And on the map I have the grey line does extend a bit beyond Cheshunt. -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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Robin wrote:
On 14/11/2016 12:41, Robin9 wrote: I've just noticed an interesting anomaly on the Freedom Pass Map which can be viewed on or downloaded from the Internet. On each route the last station within the Freedom Pass area is shown with a grey line projecting onwards; the grey line being a route where free travel is never available. Understandably, no stations are designated on the grey lines. There is a single, misleading exception: Cheshunt. The Freedom Pass area ends at Enfield Lock and Turkey Street, and on TfL's map the grey lines start from there. But Cheshunt is shown on the map and, to those not perusing cautiously, this suggests that Cheshunt is in the Area. I nearly got caught out this morning. Why has TfL made this single exception? AIUI Cheshunt is not really in the Freedom Pass area. The Freedom Pass is valid for travel to Cheshunt only on TfL's services. Hence the grey line starts at Enfield Lock. And on the map I have the grey line does extend a bit beyond Cheshunt. The thing to note is that there are three different criteria which could apply and if it meets one of these for then it Freedom Pass can be used 1) Is the station in London (except if using HS1) 2) Is the rail run by Tfl 3) Has there been a special case added. (E.g. Dartford and some Surrey stations) So Cheshunt is only reachable by Freedom Pass on Tfl Rail - ie Crossrail 2 Given type 2 Cheshunt is not the only station that not all NR trains work on see Watford Junction and Shenfield. The reason it looks odd is that there are two lines to Cheshunt from London and Freedom Pass is only available on one, and the only other other stations like that I can see are on HS1 -- Mark |
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On 14/11/2016 19:41, Mark Bestley wrote:
Robin wrote: On 14/11/2016 12:41, Robin9 wrote: I've just noticed an interesting anomaly on the Freedom Pass Map which can be viewed on or downloaded from the Internet. On each route the last station within the Freedom Pass area is shown with a grey line projecting onwards; the grey line being a route where free travel is never available. Understandably, no stations are designated on the grey lines. There is a single, misleading exception: Cheshunt. The Freedom Pass area ends at Enfield Lock and Turkey Street, and on TfL's map the grey lines start from there. But Cheshunt is shown on the map and, to those not perusing cautiously, this suggests that Cheshunt is in the Area. I nearly got caught out this morning. Why has TfL made this single exception? AIUI Cheshunt is not really in the Freedom Pass area. The Freedom Pass is valid for travel to Cheshunt only on TfL's services. Hence the grey line starts at Enfield Lock. And on the map I have the grey line does extend a bit beyond Cheshunt. The thing to note is that there are three different criteria which could apply and if it meets one of these for then it Freedom Pass can be used 1) Is the station in London (except if using HS1) 2) Is the rail run by Tfl 3) Has there been a special case added. (E.g. Dartford and some Surrey stations) So Cheshunt is only reachable by Freedom Pass on Tfl Rail - ie Crossrail 2 Given type 2 Cheshunt is not the only station that not all NR trains work on see Watford Junction and Shenfield. The reason it looks odd is that there are two lines to Cheshunt from London and Freedom Pass is only available on one, and the only other other stations like that I can see are on HS1 Thanks. (But ITYM London Overground to Cheshunt.) -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
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On 2016\11\14 19:41, Mark Bestley wrote:
So Cheshunt is only reachable by Freedom Pass on Tfl Rail - ie Crossrail 2 Crossrail 2 will use the line (or a quadrupling thereof) through Tottenham Hale, not the London Overground route through Seven Sisters. |
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I was in Cheshunt on Friday and I decided to test whether
my Freedom Pass would open the gates. It didn't. A station attendant saw that I had a Freedom Pass and opened the gates for me, saying "Platform three, my love," the platform used only by LO trains via Seven Sisters and Edmonton Green. In other words, you gentlemen are correct. The Freedom Pass is valid as far as Cheshunt only if one travels on the LO service. |
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