wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:07:15 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:49:45 -0600
wrote:
In article , d () wrote:
They all seem to have been sent up north in another intelligent move.
Whats the best place to send a 3rd rail equipped electro-diesel?
Scotland!
Genius!

They're effectively new diesel locos. Some of the conversions don't even
have a third rail capability now.

Why doesn't that surprise me. Remove a useful capability no doubt to save
a few grand on upgrading the shoe beams with no thought whatsoever as to
potential future requirements.


I'm sure they can put it back if anyone finds a need for any more low
powered third-rail locos. Perhaps you don't know that a class 73 has less
than half the power of a 66?

So? That doesn't stop it being used as a general dogsbody loco on the 3rd
rail or running in pairs.


It seems the need for such things is low. But if you travelled around the
Southern region as much as you spout nonsense, you'd see some:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...7668319839600/

On 2017\02\14 11:19, d wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:49:45 -0600
wrote:
In article , d () wrote:
They all seem to have been sent up north in another intelligent move.
Whats the best place to send a 3rd rail equipped electro-diesel?
Scotland!
Genius!

They're effectively new diesel locos. Some of the conversions don't even
have a third rail capability now.

Why doesn't that surprise me. Remove a useful capability no doubt to save
a few grand on upgrading the shoe beams with no thought whatsoever as to
potential future requirements.

Would anyone like to take part in a sweepstake on how long it will be
until Spud criticizes a railway for wasting a few grand on upgrading
shoebeams on trains which will live in Scotland where there aren't any
third rails?

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:42:55 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:07:14 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
The DC line is mostly 6-carriage platforms.

I'm sure if TfL/Bombardier got stephen hawking and some rocket scientists
on
a
retainer they could after some serious brainstorming sessions figure out a
way
to build a 6 car 378.

Oi, pay attention, the naughty boy at the back!

As already mentioned in this thread and others, the DC line will be getting
new 4-car Aventras to replace the 5-car 378s. So, far from any rocket
scientists, it won't even need any retards like you to figure out a way to
build 6-car 378s. There won't be any more 378s built.

So you're answer to why they're not using 378s on the goblin is because
they're not.

Please translate that into English?

Sorry, I was trying to comprehend your tortured logic. Clearly I failed
probably because there wasn't any to start with.

--
Spud

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:44:27 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:07:15 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:49:45 -0600
wrote:
In article , d () wrote:
They all seem to have been sent up north in another intelligent move.
Whats the best place to send a 3rd rail equipped electro-diesel?
Scotland!
Genius!

They're effectively new diesel locos. Some of the conversions don't even
have a third rail capability now.

Why doesn't that surprise me. Remove a useful capability no doubt to save
a few grand on upgrading the shoe beams with no thought whatsoever as to
potential future requirements.


I'm sure they can put it back if anyone finds a need for any more low
powered third-rail locos. Perhaps you don't know that a class 73 has less
than half the power of a 66?

So? That doesn't stop it being used as a general dogsbody loco on the 3rd
rail or running in pairs.


It seems the need for such things is low. But if you travelled around the
Southern region as much as you spout nonsense, you'd see some:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...7668319839600/

Thank you for nicely proving my point though I suspect that wasn't your
intention. Never mind eh?

--
Spud

wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:42:55 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:07:14 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
The DC line is mostly 6-carriage platforms.

I'm sure if TfL/Bombardier got stephen hawking and some rocket scientists
on
a
retainer they could after some serious brainstorming sessions figure out a
way
to build a 6 car 378.

Oi, pay attention, the naughty boy at the back!

As already mentioned in this thread and others, the DC line will be getting
new 4-car Aventras to replace the 5-car 378s. So, far from any rocket
scientists, it won't even need any retards like you to figure out a way to
build 6-car 378s. There won't be any more 378s built.

So you're answer to why they're not using 378s on the goblin is because
they're not.

Please translate that into English?

Sorry, I was trying to comprehend your tortured logic. Clearly I failed
probably because there wasn't any to start with.

I realise English isn't your native language, but I wonder if your
translator generated "you're" instead of "your" in that garbled sentence?
Perhaps you're using obsolete software to translate what passes for your
thoughts into English?

The reason they're not using 378s on the GOBLIN is because it's a new order
for 4-car EMUs, and the winning bidder for the contract proposed a current,
rather than an obsolete, product for which new orders are no longer being
accepted. Strange, that.

wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:44:27 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:07:15 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:49:45 -0600
wrote:
In article , d () wrote:
They all seem to have been sent up north in another intelligent move.
Whats the best place to send a 3rd rail equipped electro-diesel?
Scotland!
Genius!

They're effectively new diesel locos. Some of the conversions don't even
have a third rail capability now.

Why doesn't that surprise me. Remove a useful capability no doubt to save
a few grand on upgrading the shoe beams with no thought whatsoever as to
potential future requirements.


I'm sure they can put it back if anyone finds a need for any more low
powered third-rail locos. Perhaps you don't know that a class 73 has less
than half the power of a 66?

So? That doesn't stop it being used as a general dogsbody loco on the 3rd
rail or running in pairs.


It seems the need for such things is low. But if you travelled around the
Southern region as much as you spout nonsense, you'd see some:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...7668319839600/

Thank you for nicely proving my point though I suspect that wasn't your
intention. Never mind eh?


You were making a point, rather than just spewing content-free bile? I
suppose there's a first for anything.

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:48:06 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:42:55 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:07:14 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
The DC line is mostly 6-carriage platforms.

I'm sure if TfL/Bombardier got stephen hawking and some rocket scientists
on
a
retainer they could after some serious brainstorming sessions figure out
a
way
to build a 6 car 378.

Oi, pay attention, the naughty boy at the back!

As already mentioned in this thread and others, the DC line will be
getting
new 4-car Aventras to replace the 5-car 378s. So, far from any rocket
scientists, it won't even need any retards like you to figure out a way to
build 6-car 378s. There won't be any more 378s built.

So you're answer to why they're not using 378s on the goblin is because
they're not.

Please translate that into English?

Sorry, I was trying to comprehend your tortured logic. Clearly I failed
probably because there wasn't any to start with.

I realise English isn't your native language, but I wonder if your
translator generated "you're" instead of "your" in that garbled sentence?
Perhaps you're using obsolete software to translate what passes for your
thoughts into English?

Awww, have you really had to fall back on pointing out typos? Never mind,
don't get upset, you'll think up a proper counterpoint again one day!

The reason they're not using 378s on the GOBLIN is because it's a new order
for 4-car EMUs, and the winning bidder for the contract proposed a current,
rather than an obsolete, product for which new orders are no longer being
accepted. Strange, that.

When its a continuation of a previous order that rule generally doesn't apply
which is how they managed to build all those extra cars to extend the ELL
trains to 5 cars.

--
Spud

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:51:16 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
You were making a point, rather than just spewing content-free bile? I
suppose there's a first for anything.

Are you a Guardian reader? "bile" is their euphamism for anything they don't
agree with but can't argue against.

Oh look, I see you, the ambulance blocker and a few of the others on here
have made it on to youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsCaQ9OaVLk

--
Spud

wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:48:06 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:42:55 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:07:14 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
The DC line is mostly 6-carriage platforms.

I'm sure if TfL/Bombardier got stephen hawking and some rocket scientists
on
a
retainer they could after some serious brainstorming sessions figure out
a
way
to build a 6 car 378.

Oi, pay attention, the naughty boy at the back!

As already mentioned in this thread and others, the DC line will be
getting
new 4-car Aventras to replace the 5-car 378s. So, far from any rocket
scientists, it won't even need any retards like you to figure out a way to
build 6-car 378s. There won't be any more 378s built.

So you're answer to why they're not using 378s on the goblin is because
they're not.

Please translate that into English?

Sorry, I was trying to comprehend your tortured logic. Clearly I failed
probably because there wasn't any to start with.

I realise English isn't your native language, but I wonder if your
translator generated "you're" instead of "your" in that garbled sentence?
Perhaps you're using obsolete software to translate what passes for your
thoughts into English?

Awww, have you really had to fall back on pointing out typos? Never mind,
don't get upset, you'll think up a proper counterpoint again one day!

They're not typos. They're illiteracy.

Your translation software needs upgrading.


The reason they're not using 378s on the GOBLIN is because it's a new order
for 4-car EMUs, and the winning bidder for the contract proposed a current,
rather than an obsolete, product for which new orders are no longer being
accepted. Strange, that.

When its a continuation of a previous order that rule generally doesn't apply
which is how they managed to build all those extra cars to extend the ELL
trains to 5 cars.

It's not a continuation of an existing order.

wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:51:16 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
You were making a point, rather than just spewing content-free bile? I
suppose there's a first for anything.

Are you a Guardian reader? "bile" is their euphamism for anything they don't
agree with but can't argue against.

Fortunately, I'm a reader. You should try it some time. It's a good way of
learning the language.