On 31 Mar 2004 20:19:34 GMT, (Mait001) wrote:



With respect, what was shown was what was timetabled, not what actually ran!
That's why I wrote "ACTUALLY RUNNING".

With respect it was shown what was running - I - and other people
actually travel on the trains and have seen them leaving Waterloo. I
doubt *very* much, if they fail to stop at Wandsworth Town when they
are timetabled to.

With respect, what was shown was what was timetabled, not what actually ran!
That's why I wrote "ACTUALLY RUNNING".

With respect it was shown what was running - I - and other people
actually travel on the trains and have seen them leaving Waterloo. I
doubt *very* much, if they fail to stop at Wandsworth Town when they
are timetabled to.



I am not suggesting trains timetabled to stop and Wandworth Town run through
without stopping, but I am suggesting (from bitter experience - otherwise why
would I be sayng it?) that I have often been at Waterloo around 7.15 to
7.30p.m and waited for over half an hour either without seeing a single train
on the boards for Wandsworth Town, or a train listed without a platform number
but then, without any announcement or anything, it just disappears from the
board.

I'm not saying it happens every day, but sufficiently often to have made me
change my route permanently.

Sorry if you disagree, but that's my experience.

Marc.

On 01 Apr 2004 14:04:26 GMT, (Mait001) wrote:

With respect, what was shown was what was timetabled, not what actually ran!


I am not suggesting trains timetabled to stop and Wandworth Town run through
without stopping, but I am suggesting (from bitter experience - otherwise why
would I be sayng it?) that I have often been at Waterloo around 7.15 to
7.30p.m and waited for over half an hour either without seeing a single train
on the boards for Wandsworth Town, or a train listed without a platform number
but then, without any announcement or anything, it just disappears from the
board.


Ah - I'm not saying it never happens either :-) I sometimes have to
wait over half an hour for my train (and even then it still runs
slowly).

I'm not saying it happens every day, but sufficiently often to have made me
change my route permanently.

If you have found an alternative then fine. Unfortunately my
alternative route is only worth it as a last resort.


Sorry if you disagree, but that's my experience.

I don't disagree that is sometimes happens. I was saying that, IME,
generally it doesn't. Obviously I'm not specifically looking out for
Wandsworth Town trains - I just know that my trains stop there (and
everywhere else! :-( ) and the ones going the other way round the
Hounslow loop do as well.

In message , K
writes

On 01 Apr 2004 14:04:26 GMT, (Mait001) wrote:

Sorry if you disagree, but that's my experience.

I don't disagree that is sometimes happens. I was saying that, IME,
generally it doesn't.

The evening peak service of six trains per hour between 16:30 and 19:00
from Waterloo to Wandsworth Town is indeed normally very good.

However, Mait001 regards the period between 19:00 and 20:00 as part of
the evening peak - and that is the essence of his problem. His
travelling time is actually the period AFTER the evening peak and the
period in which any cumulative problems of late running during the
conventional evening peak are likely to result in very late or cancelled
services.

However, the ON network should be capable of delivering four trains per
hour even at this time - I suspect that Mait001 is right in saying that
it often fails, but it is at a later time than most commuters travel and
so we don't appreciate his problems.

--
Paul Terry

The evening peak service of six trains per hour between 16:30 and 19:00
from Waterloo to Wandsworth Town is indeed normally very good.

However, Mait001 regards the period between 19:00 and 20:00 as part of
the evening peak - and that is the essence of his problem. His
travelling time is actually the period AFTER the evening peak and the
period in which any cumulative problems of late running during the
conventional evening peak are likely to result in very late or cancelled
services.

However, the ON network should be capable of delivering four trains per
hour even at this time - I suspect that Mait001 is right in saying that
it often fails, but it is at a later time than most commuters travel and
so we don't appreciate his problems.

--
Paul Terry


Paul, indeed that's right, and the knock-on effect of earlier problems is no
doubt what I was experiencing all too regularly.

Marc.