"Jarle Hammen Knudsen" wrote

What's changing in 2018?
Oyster will become like Contactless so presumably they have to find a way
to
deal with railcard discounts in the back office system.

Why are they spending money on a fast pickup feature when the need for
one will be gone in a year's time?


My understanding is that current Oyster cards will be dealt with as now,
newly issued Oyster cards will be contactless style.

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Mike D

On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:21:38 -0000
"Michael R N Dolbear" wrote:
"Jarle Hammen Knudsen" wrote

What's changing in 2018?
Oyster will become like Contactless so presumably they have to find a way
to
deal with railcard discounts in the back office system.

Why are they spending money on a fast pickup feature when the need for
one will be gone in a year's time?


My understanding is that current Oyster cards will be dealt with as now,
newly issued Oyster cards will be contactless style.

Err, Oyster have been contactless since they were introduced.

--
Spud

In message , at 09:38:56 on Tue, 28 Feb
2017, d remarked:

What's changing in 2018?
Oyster will become like Contactless so presumably they have to find
a way to deal with railcard discounts in the back office system.

Why are they spending money on a fast pickup feature when the need for
one will be gone in a year's time?


My understanding is that current Oyster cards will be dealt with as now,
newly issued Oyster cards will be contactless style.

Err, Oyster have been contactless since they were introduced.

I read the comment as meaning the "new" Oyster card will be in effect a
contactless pre-paid credit card with zero credit loaded, but an
arrangement to auto-topup from a bank account by the exact amount of any
journeys made.
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:45:53 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:38:56 on Tue, 28 Feb
2017, d remarked:
My understanding is that current Oyster cards will be dealt with as now,
newly issued Oyster cards will be contactless style.

Err, Oyster have been contactless since they were introduced.

I read the comment as meaning the "new" Oyster card will be in effect a
contactless pre-paid credit card with zero credit loaded, but an
arrangement to auto-topup from a bank account by the exact amount of any
journeys made.

I wonder if one will be able to use it in shops? If not there seems to be
scarcely any difference between that and a current auto top up.

--
Spud

On 2017-02-28 09:56:02 +0000, d said:

I wonder if one will be able to use it in shops?

No, because it would bring TfL under banking regulation - that's why
present Oyster isn't either.

Neil
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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the @ to reply.

In message , at 09:56:02 on Tue, 28 Feb
2017, d remarked:
My understanding is that current Oyster cards will be dealt with as now,
newly issued Oyster cards will be contactless style.

Err, Oyster have been contactless since they were introduced.

I read the comment as meaning the "new" Oyster card will be in effect a
contactless pre-paid credit card with zero credit loaded, but an
arrangement to auto-topup from a bank account by the exact amount of any
journeys made.

I wonder if one will be able to use it in shops?

No, because it has zero credit on it.

If not there seems to be
scarcely any difference between that and a current auto top up.

And also only extracts a day's travel each time, not £20/£40.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 09:56:02 on Tue, 28 Feb
2017, d remarked:
My understanding is that current Oyster cards will be dealt with as
now, newly issued Oyster cards will be contactless style.

Err, Oyster have been contactless since they were introduced.

I read the comment as meaning the "new" Oyster card will be in effect a
contactless pre-paid credit card with zero credit loaded, but an
arrangement to auto-topup from a bank account by the exact amount of any
journeys made.

I wonder if one will be able to use it in shops?

No, because it has zero credit on it.

Oyster cards do have credit on them and will continue to have in 2018. It's
just, AIUI, where the information as to the amount of credit is held that
will change, from the card itself to the back office system.

As others have said, there are unrelated reasons why the credit can't be
used in shops.

If not there seems to be
scarcely any difference between that and a current auto top up.

And also only extracts a day's travel each time, not £20/£40.

Maybe that won't change either.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 2017-02-28 13:38:36 +0000, said:

And also only extracts a day's travel each time, not £20/£40.

Maybe that won't change either.

I doubt it will, duplicating functionality of contactless debit cards
is totally pointless. The Oyster offering is different and may as well
remain different.

Neil
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Neil Williams
Put my first name before the @ to reply.

On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:38:36 -0600
wrote:
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:
No, because it has zero credit on it.

Oyster cards do have credit on them and will continue to have in 2018. It's
just, AIUI, where the information as to the amount of credit is held that
will change, from the card itself to the back office system.

With a consequent slowdown at the gates. Just what's needed in a busy system.
Contactless are already slower than Oyster, this won't improve gate throughput
at all.

--
Spud

On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:56:02 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:45:53 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:38:56 on Tue, 28 Feb
2017, d remarked:
My understanding is that current Oyster cards will be dealt with as now,
newly issued Oyster cards will be contactless style.

Err, Oyster have been contactless since they were introduced.

I read the comment as meaning the "new" Oyster card will be in effect a
contactless pre-paid credit card with zero credit loaded, but an
arrangement to auto-topup from a bank account by the exact amount of any
journeys made.

I wonder if one will be able to use it in shops? If not there seems to be
scarcely any difference between that and a current auto top up.

It allows TfL to do things like weekly capping that the current Oyster
cards can't do.