On 9/16/2017 2:14 PM, tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message
-septem
ber.org, at 10:20:13 on Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Recliner
remarked:

And they've now made an arrest, in Dover.

Trying to get on a ferry?

OOI

assuming that he is the actual wanted person and not just some random
person of the correct ethnicity (as in - the Birmingham Six)

I wonder if they identified him as a potential suspect:

a) from a name
b) from facial recognition
c) his general demeanor
d) a failed attempt to travel on false documents

anything else?

tim



I think police methods are now far more sophisticated.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

On 17/09/2017 07:41, Martin Edwards wrote:
On 9/16/2017 2:14 PM, tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message
-septem

ber.org, at 10:20:13 on Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Recliner
remarked:

And they've now made an arrest, in Dover.

Trying to get on a ferry?

OOI

assuming that he is the actual wanted person and not just some random
person of the correct ethnicity (as in - the Birmingham Six)

I wonder if they identified him as a potential suspect:

a) from a name
b) from facial recognition
c) his general demeanor
d) a failed attempt to travel on false documents

anything else?

tim



I think police methods are now far more sophisticated.


Nothing very sophisticated about trawling through CCTV coverage, but it
aooears to have worked.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

"Martin Edwards" wrote in message
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On 9/16/2017 2:14 PM, tim... wrote:


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message
-septem
ber.org, at 10:20:13 on Sat, 16 Sep 2017, Recliner
remarked:

And they've now made an arrest, in Dover.

Trying to get on a ferry?

OOI

assuming that he is the actual wanted person and not just some random
person of the correct ethnicity (as in - the Birmingham Six)

I wonder if they identified him as a potential suspect:

a) from a name
b) from facial recognition
c) his general demeanor
d) a failed attempt to travel on false documents

anything else?

tim



I think police methods are now far more sophisticated.

ESP?

My question really is

did they pick him up because they had managed to get a name/face for the
person they were looking for

or did he give himself away

tim

On 17/09/2017 14:06, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:44:03 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:


assuming that he is the actual wanted person and not just some random
person of the correct ethnicity (as in - the Birmingham Six)

I wonder if they identified him as a potential suspect:

a) from a name
b) from facial recognition
c) his general demeanor
d) a failed attempt to travel on false documents

anything else?

tim



I think police methods are now far more sophisticated.

ESP?

My question really is

did they pick him up because they had managed to get a name/face for the
person they were looking for

or did he give himself away

tim


Look at Train CCTV of man with with bag getting on at station xxx
look at CCTV at station xxx for the time period you expect someone on
that train to have entered the station and see same man with same bag
touching in.
Strike lucky and find he used a registered Oyster card.


Or he's a minor criminal with a record and fingerprints/DNA on file.
Get a match from the bucket.


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

In message , at 16:54:53 on Sun, 17 Sep
2017, Graeme Wall remarked
did they pick him up because they had managed to get a name/face for the
person they were looking for

or did he give himself away

Look at Train CCTV of man with with bag getting on at station xxx
look at CCTV at station xxx for the time period you expect someone on
that train to have entered the station and see same man with same bag
touching in.
Strike lucky and find he used a registered Oyster card.

Or he's a minor criminal with a record and fingerprints/DNA on file.
Get a match from the bucket.

Very little hard information two days later. One arrest in Dover,
another in London; are either firmly linked to forensics from CCTV and
the bucket, or because of something else?
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:54:53 on Sun, 17 Sep
2017, Graeme Wall remarked
did they pick him up because they had managed to get a name/face for the
person they were looking for

or did he give himself away

Look at Train CCTV of man with with bag getting on at station xxx
look at CCTV at station xxx for the time period you expect someone on
that train to have entered the station and see same man with same bag
touching in.
Strike lucky and find he used a registered Oyster card.

Or he's a minor criminal with a record and fingerprints/DNA on file.
Get a match from the bucket.

Very little hard information two days later. One arrest in Dover,
another in London; are either firmly linked to forensics from CCTV and
the bucket, or because of something else?

Presumably information will remain limited if they're still looking for
more suspects, suppliers, funders, inspirers, etc.

In message
-septe
mber.org, at 16:25:19 on Sun, 17 Sep 2017, Recliner
remarked:
Very little hard information two days later. One arrest in Dover,
another in London; are either firmly linked to forensics from CCTV and
the bucket, or because of something else?

Presumably information will remain limited if they're still looking for
more suspects, suppliers, funders, inspirers, etc.

But they've lowered the threat level.
--
Roland Perry

On 17/09/2017 17:09, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:54:53 on Sun, 17 Sep
2017, Graeme Wall remarked
did they pick him up because they had managed to get a name/face for
the
person they were looking for

or did he give himself away

Â* Look at Train CCTV of man withÂ* with bag getting on at station xxx
look at CCTV at station xxx for the time period you expect someone on
thatÂ* train to have entered the station and see same man with same bag
touching in.
Strike lucky and find he used a registered Oyster card.

Or he's a minor criminal with a record and fingerprints/DNA on file.
Get a match from the bucket.

Very little hard information two days later. One arrest in Dover,
another in London; are either firmly linked to forensics from CCTV and
the bucket, or because of something else?

Doubt we will be told for a while yet. Threat level has been lowered
again so looks like they think no one else is involved.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:54:53 on Sun, 17 Sep
2017, Graeme Wall remarked
did they pick him up because they had managed to get a name/face for the
person they were looking for

or did he give himself away

Look at Train CCTV of man with with bag getting on at station xxx
look at CCTV at station xxx for the time period you expect someone on
that train to have entered the station and see same man with same bag
touching in.
Strike lucky and find he used a registered Oyster card.

Or he's a minor criminal with a record and fingerprints/DNA on file.
Get a match from the bucket.

Very little hard information two days later. One arrest in Dover,
another in London; are either firmly linked to forensics from CCTV and
the bucket, or because of something else?

Well, they're still making arrests:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41327872

In message , at 20:51:01 on Tue, 19
Sep 2017, Recliner remarked:

Very little hard information two days later. One arrest in Dover,
another in London; are either firmly linked to forensics from CCTV and
the bucket, or because of something else?

Turns out to be "something else".

Well, they're still making arrests:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41327872

Most likely "associated with/linked to" one or both of the first two
arrestees, rather than to the bucket or CCTV in west London.
--
Roland Perry