"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On 2017-11-15 09:45:59 +0000, said:

Bad news for Croydon. The Whitgift Centre has for years been blighted by
Westfield's plans. Getting on for half of the shops are closed, with
more every time I go there. There's nothing much wrong with the place
which couldn't be fixed by some minor refurbishment, fixing some leaks in
the roof, some of which have been there for years, for example, and a bit
of paint.

It's an absolute rathole in every possible way and needs pulling down.

We already have two Westfield centres in London, they mainly sell things
like expensive designer clothes, which are not something which most
people buy very often, if ever. They don't seem to attract shops selling
everyday things. There's a not very good Sainsbury's in the Whitgift
Centre, but rather than improving that it will almost certainly be absent
from the new Westfield.

Realistically who completes a full supermarket shop in a town centre these
days? An out of town supermarket and a Sainsburys Local (there is already
one near the station) will do better I reckon.

A large hole was made in the centre of Bradfield years ago for Westfield
to build a new centre there, put the plans were then put on hold, leaving
a large empty space. The Broadway Centre was eventually built, opening a
couple of years ago, but the Westfield name doesn't seem to be anywhere
on it.

Bradford.

Bradfield is the fictional city where Wire in the Blood is set

Just thought you'd all like to know that

tim

"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On 2017-11-15 09:10:04 +0000, Basil Jet said:

Apparently the Centrale shopping centre (which only opened in 2004) is to
be merged with the Whitgift Centre. I think this will probably create the
largest shopping centre in the UK, since the combined area of the current
centres is only just short of the Metro Centre in Newcastle.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41983441

This page suggests that East Croydon may gain a fourth pair of NR
platforms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydo...#Train_Station

The page also talks about lengthening tram platforms at West Croydon,
although I couldn't quite find enough info to make sense of that. I would
have imagined that all the tram platforms are the same length, and there
would be no point in lengthening one unless you lengthen them all.

I'd imagine that will be a relatively good thing - Croydon high street and
both shopping centres are abject dumps (particularly the Whitgift which
needs knocking down).

it is 50 years old, and it was a revolutionary new way of shopping when it
opened (and, of course, the high street was still a main road through the
town at the time)

but the rest of the world has caught up and moved on

tim

On 2017\11\15 13:58, tim... wrote:

Bradfield is the fictional city where Wire in the Blood is set

If you read the book, it was called Bielefeld in the original Klingon.

"Sam Wilson" wrote in message
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On 2017-11-15 13:27:44 +0000, tim... said:

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
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Apparently the Centrale shopping centre (which only opened in 2004) is
to be merged with the Whitgift Centre. I think this will probably create
the largest shopping centre in the UK, since the combined area of the
current centres is only just short of the Metro Centre in Newcastle.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41983441

This page suggests that East Croydon may gain a fourth pair of NR
platforms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydo...#Train_Station


"It said it would "cement Croydon's reputation as one of the best
destinations in the capital to live, work and play"

provided that you don't mind ignoring the law about carrying a knife with
you, that is

Is it compulsory? My friends from Croydon didn't tell me about that.
Perhaps I should trust them less.

It's not compulsory

but don't be surprised if you feel unsafe without it

tim

On 2017-11-15 13:58:24 +0000, tim... said:

Bradfield is the fictional city where Wire in the Blood is set

Just thought you'd all like to know that

Oh. There is/was a big hole in the middle of Bradford pending a
shopping arcade of some kind, though.

Neil

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:01:58 -0000
"tim..." wrote:
"Neil Williams" wrote in message
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On 2017-11-15 09:10:04 +0000, Basil Jet said:

Apparently the Centrale shopping centre (which only opened in 2004) is to
be merged with the Whitgift Centre. I think this will probably create the
largest shopping centre in the UK, since the combined area of the current
centres is only just short of the Metro Centre in Newcastle.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41983441

This page suggests that East Croydon may gain a fourth pair of NR
platforms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydo...#Train_Station

The page also talks about lengthening tram platforms at West Croydon,
although I couldn't quite find enough info to make sense of that. I would
have imagined that all the tram platforms are the same length, and there
would be no point in lengthening one unless you lengthen them all.

I'd imagine that will be a relatively good thing - Croydon high street and
both shopping centres are abject dumps (particularly the Whitgift which
needs knocking down).

it is 50 years old, and it was a revolutionary new way of shopping when it
opened (and, of course, the high street was still a main road through the
town at the time)

but the rest of the world has caught up and moved on

The age doesn't matter, its all down to whether the owners can be arsed to
keep it up to date and whether the locals are chav scum or not. Brent Cross is
over 40 years old but you'd never know it walking around inside it because it
gets investment and is in a relatively well off area.

On 2017-11-15 15:38:07 +0000, said:

The age doesn't matter, its all down to whether the owners can be arsed to
keep it up to date and whether the locals are chav scum or not. Brent Cross is
over 40 years old but you'd never know it walking around inside it because it
gets investment and is in a relatively well off area.

Similarly the "old bit" of Milton Keynes shopping centre.

Croydon is an abject dump, which is surprising given how many well-off
commuters live there.

Neil

On 15/11/2017 15:45, Neil Williams wrote:
On 2017-11-15 15:38:07 +0000, said:

The age doesn't matter, its all down to whether the owners can be
arsed to
keep it up to date and whether the locals are chav scum or not. Brent
Cross is
over 40 years old but you'd never know it walking around inside it
because it
gets investment and is in a relatively well off area.

Similarly the "old bit" of Milton Keynes shopping centre.

Croydon is an abject dump, which is surprising given how many well-off
commuters live there.

Neil


But it does get the visitors to Luner House.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 15:45:02 +0000
Neil Williams wrote:
On 2017-11-15 15:38:07 +0000, said:

The age doesn't matter, its all down to whether the owners can be arsed to
keep it up to date and whether the locals are chav scum or not. Brent Cross
is
over 40 years old but you'd never know it walking around inside it because it
gets investment and is in a relatively well off area.

Similarly the "old bit" of Milton Keynes shopping centre.

Croydon is an abject dump, which is surprising given how many well-off
commuters live there.

And all the PT facilities the place has. I suppose the problem is it can't
decide if its a town or a suburb and whether they should invest in it when
most people just head off to london to work.

On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 09:10:07 UTC, Basil Jet wrote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croydo...#Train_Station

The page also talks about lengthening tram platforms at West Croydon,
although I couldn't quite find enough info to make sense of that. I
would have imagined that all the tram platforms are the same length, and
there would be no point in lengthening one unless you lengthen them all.



It's actually East Croydon where they propose lengthening the platforms to accommodate four car trams, not West Croydon.