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![]() The railway press seems to have missed this completely. https://www.barnet.gov.uk/citizen-ho...hameslink.html Four platforms - when was the last time a new station opened with four platforms? I think Cambridge North only has three. I'm guessing Luton Airport Parkway, and before that God knows when there was another. |
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wrote: The railway press seems to have missed this completely. https://www.barnet.gov.uk/citizen-ho...ent-cross-cric klewood/brent-cross-thameslink.html Four platforms - when was the last time a new station opened with four platforms? I think Cambridge North only has three. I'm guessing Luton Airport Parkway, and before that God knows when there was another. If Cambridge South (Addenbrooke's) gets built it will probably have four platforms. Four tracks, certainly. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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In uk.railway Basil Jet wrote:
Four platforms - when was the last time a new station opened with four platforms? I think Cambridge North only has three. I'm guessing Luton Airport Parkway, and before that God knows when there was another. 2009: Stratford International? (plus DLR) Ebbsfleet International has six. Theo |
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In message , at 23:20:54 on Tue, 6 Feb 2018,
Basil Jet remarked: The railway press seems to have missed this completely. https://www.barnet.gov.uk/citizen-ho...et/brent-cross -cricklewood/brent-cross-thameslink.html Four platforms - when was the last time a new station opened with four platforms? I wonder how often trains will stop at the fast up/down platforms? I think Cambridge North only has three. All of them well-used. I'm guessing Luton Airport Parkway, East Midlands Parkway, Dalston Junction; both with regular trains at all four platforms all day long. Heathrow T5, sort of (Provision for four platforms) Edinburgh Gateway, if you count tram platforms. and before that God knows when there was another. -- Roland Perry |
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![]() "Basil Jet" wrote in message news ![]() The railway press seems to have missed this completely. It's still 5 years away tim |
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I'd never heard of this. Just along the road is the large Golders Green Bus/Coach station. I wonder if there are plans to move that?
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 08:07:46 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 23:20:54 on Tue, 6 Feb 2018, Basil Jet remarked: The railway press seems to have missed this completely. https://www.barnet.gov.uk/citizen-ho...et/brent-cross -cricklewood/brent-cross-thameslink.html Four platforms - when was the last time a new station opened with four platforms? I wonder how often trains will stop at the fast up/down platforms? As often as they stop at West Hampstead on the fast lines ? Up to 6 per hour outside the peaks and maybe more when things go wrong. Putting only two platforms in at a new station in this area could leave it in danger of effective isolation when the slow lines are unavailable. I think Cambridge North only has three. All of them well-used. I'm guessing Luton Airport Parkway, East Midlands Parkway, Dalston Junction; both with regular trains at all four platforms all day long. Heathrow T5, sort of (Provision for four platforms) Edinburgh Gateway, if you count tram platforms. and before that God knows when there was another. |
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In message , at 23:55:32 on
Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Charles Ellson remarked: The railway press seems to have missed this completely. https://www.barnet.gov.uk/citizen-ho...et/brent-cross -cricklewood/brent-cross-thameslink.html Four platforms - when was the last time a new station opened with four platforms? I wonder how often trains will stop at the fast up/down platforms? As often as they stop at West Hampstead on the fast lines ? Why West Hampstead and not Cricklewood? Up to 6 per hour outside the peaks and maybe more when things go wrong. Putting only two platforms in at a new station in this area could leave it in danger of effective isolation when the slow lines are unavailable. I'm not suggesting they put in only two platforms, rather that two of them will see very little usage, and it's therefore much more of a "two platform" station. Even if it had as many Thameslink trains stopping on the fast platforms as Luton Airport Parkway, that's only six a day up and ten down. -- Roland Perry |
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On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 06:46:06 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 23:55:32 on Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Charles Ellson remarked: The railway press seems to have missed this completely. https://www.barnet.gov.uk/citizen-ho...et/brent-cross -cricklewood/brent-cross-thameslink.html Four platforms - when was the last time a new station opened with four platforms? I wonder how often trains will stop at the fast up/down platforms? As often as they stop at West Hampstead on the fast lines ? Why West Hampstead and not Cricklewood? West Hampstead is an interchange with LU and the NLL. Cricklewood like Hendon only interchanges with a couple of bus routes and neither seem as busy; the planned station, while not exactly next door to it, has a bus station served by multiple local buses at Brent Cross shopping centre and some long distance buses nearby. Up to 6 per hour outside the peaks and maybe more when things go wrong. Putting only two platforms in at a new station in this area could leave it in danger of effective isolation when the slow lines are unavailable. I'm not suggesting they put in only two platforms, rather that two of them will see very little usage, and it's therefore much more of a "two platform" station. That isn't much different from other stations on the same line (and Harrow, Wembley and Watford on the WCML) but it enables the station to function more or less normally if one set of lines is closed at the weekend or evenings and greatly reduces the disruption if one line is blocked. Various 4-track stations near London on other lines lose out greatly on flexibility when they only have platforms on 2 lines, there being a lot less practical difference between slow and fast services (and no slow speed freight) compared with a century ago. Even if it had as many Thameslink trains stopping on the fast platforms as Luton Airport Parkway, that's only six a day up and ten down. |
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In message , at 07:49:45 on
Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Charles Ellson remarked: On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 06:46:06 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 23:55:32 on Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Charles Ellson remarked: The railway press seems to have missed this completely. https://www.barnet.gov.uk/citizen-ho...et/brent-cross -cricklewood/brent-cross-thameslink.html Four platforms - when was the last time a new station opened with four platforms? I wonder how often trains will stop at the fast up/down platforms? As often as they stop at West Hampstead on the fast lines ? Why West Hampstead and not Cricklewood? West Hampstead is an interchange with LU and the NLL. Cricklewood like Hendon only interchanges with a couple of bus routes and neither seem as busy; the planned station, while not exactly next door to it, has a bus station served by multiple local buses at Brent Cross shopping centre and some long distance buses nearby. For railway stations the ability to change to other trains is overwhelmingly more influential than changing to buses. Up to 6 per hour outside the peaks and maybe more when things go wrong. Putting only two platforms in at a new station in this area could leave it in danger of effective isolation when the slow lines are unavailable. I'm not suggesting they put in only two platforms, rather that two of them will see very little usage, and it's therefore much more of a "two platform" station. That isn't much different from other stations on the same line (and Harrow, Wembley and Watford on the WCML) but it enables the station to function more or less normally if one set of lines is closed at the weekend or evenings and greatly reduces the disruption if one line is blocked. Sure, but that's still in the "very little usage" camp. -- Roland Perry |
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