Martin Whelton wrote:
My understanding is that the new St Pancras Thameslink station is
opening next year. The line is being split in September to
facilatate
work with trains from the south terminating at Kings Cross
Thameslink(
a crossover is being constructed) or Blackfriars. Trains from the
north will run into the new part of St Pncras being constructed on
it's east side. I for one hope that Kings Cross Thameslink remains
open when St Pancras Thamselink station opens as it provides useful
connections to the Underground which the new station will not have.

Which useful connections to LU will St Pancras Thameslink "not have"?
Or are you just saying that some will be less convenient?

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Nick Lawford wrote:

"Heliomass" wrote in message



I was thinking today, what is going to happen to the existing Kings Cross
Thameslink when the new underground St. Pancras station opens?


Blown off the face of the earth I hope.

It has to be the worst station on the UK rail network in terms of
facilities and environment in relation to the number of passengers using
it.

If I understood a recent Modern Railways itme correctly, there is
presently some doubt as to whether or not the new KX-SP-CTRL station
will be completed ahead of TL2000 works. As the latter has yet to be
authorised, I interpreted that as it may not be opened.

I hope thats either wrong or I mis-read it.

The Thameslink route is being closed for six months over the summer with
trains to/from the north terminating at St Pancras and to/from the south
terminating at King's Cross Thameslink - so I hope they're building the
station in the meantime otherwise it's a waste of time!

AIUI St Pancras Midland Road should be ready way before TL2K.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Dave Arquati wrote:

(snip)
The Thameslink route is being closed for six months over the summer with
trains to/from the north terminating at St Pancras and to/from the south
terminating at King's Cross Thameslink - so I hope they're building the
station in the meantime otherwise it's a waste of time!

....and by summer of course I mean summer in the southern hemisphere.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

"Nick Lawford" wrote in message news:31ff6b3c5fc212b9199ef76416437c9f.97781@mygat e.mailgate.org...

Blown off the face of the earth I hope.

It has to be the worst station on the UK rail network in terms of
facilities and environment in relation to the number of passengers using
it.

HEAR HEAR ! Sorry to shout but it is worth it in this case.


If I understood a recent Modern Railways itme correctly, there is
presently some doubt as to whether or not the new KX-SP-CTRL station
will be completed ahead of TL2000 works. As the latter has yet to be
authorised, I interpreted that as it may not be opened.

I hope thats either wrong or I mis-read it.


Indeed !

--
Nick

Fat Richard

"Martin Whelton" wrote in message
om...

I for one hope that Kings Cross Thameslink remains
open when St Pancras Thamselink station opens as it provides useful
connections to the Underground which the new station will not have.
Although they will be a quite near each other the distance will still
be further then between Blackfriars and City Thameslink. Though Kings
Cross Thameslink will have to close if train lengths ever got
increased to 12, nevertheless while the whole Thameslink 2000 project
remains in abeyance they should not close the station.

Faringdon is a far better interchange with LU. The odds are that you can get
from there to where you want to be quicker than walking from the new
Thameslink St Pancras station.
--
Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society
75th Anniversary 2004, see http://www.omnibussoc.org/75th.htm
E-mail:
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 09:09:11 +0100, "Dave Liney"
wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message
...
I was there yesterday and found it very annoying that there is an
underground
tunnel linking Kings X and ThamesLink, but no mention of it above ground.

To use it you have to have a ticket valid on the Underground because you
have to go through an Underground gateline and the route is much slower and
more convoluted than the above ground way. The weather would have to be
really atrocious for it to be a sensible route when starting at ground
level.

Dave.

And a devil of a slope, quite a sod after a long days hiking!!

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(Terry Harper) wrote:

"Martin Whelton" wrote in message
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I for one hope that Kings Cross Thameslink remains
open when St Pancras Thamselink station opens as it provides useful
connections to the Underground which the new station will not have.
Although they will be a quite near each other the distance will still
be further then between Blackfriars and City Thameslink. Though Kings
Cross Thameslink will have to close if train lengths ever got
increased to 12, nevertheless while the whole Thameslink 2000 project
remains in abeyance they should not close the station.

Faringdon is a far better interchange with LU. The odds are that you
can get from there to where you want to be quicker than walking from the
new Thameslink St Pancras station.

Not from where I sit. Links from Thameslink to WAGN will not be easier as
far as I can see. However, unless they improve Thameslink cross-London
transit times it will still be quicker to go to Victoria and take the
Victoria Line to the Cross. Rather undermines the point of Thameslink.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Martin Whelton" wrote in message
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My understanding is that the new St Pancras Thameslink station is
opening next year. The line is being split in September to facilatate

Incorrect.

The new SP TL station is not due to be opened until 2007.

All that is being done for now is building the station box.

TL trains on re-instatemnt of the through route after the current
planned service split revert to situation as it is now.

--
Nick


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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message



The Thameslink route is being closed for six months over the summer with
trains to/from the north terminating at St Pancras and to/from the south
terminating at King's Cross Thameslink - so I hope they're building the
station in the meantime otherwise it's a waste of time!

No.

They are building the station box not the station. When TL re-opens as a
through route after the possession you coreectly describe, TL continues
with operationas it is now, the exisitng KX TL, not any new station.

The new station is not due to open until 2007 when SP opens for CTRL.

What the item in Modern Railways says is that SRA has yet to find the
funds for equipping to new TL station. No funds = no station. No
station = no 12 cars. etc. etc.

--
Nick



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"Dave Arquati" wrote in message



The Thameslink route is being closed for six months over the summer with
trains to/from the north terminating at St Pancras and to/from the south
terminating at King's Cross Thameslink - so I hope they're building the
station in the meantime otherwise it's a waste of time!

No.

They are building the station box not the station. When TL re-opens as a
through route after the possession you coreectly describe, TL continues
with operationas it is now, the exisitng KX TL, not any new station.

The new station is not due to open until 2007 when SP opens for CTRL.

What the item in Modern Railways says is that SRA has yet to find the
funds for equipping to new TL station. No funds = no station. No
station = no 12 cars. etc. etc.

Presumably if the opening of the new station was delayed, the existing one
would remain in service for longer - or are there plans to close the old one
come what may, potentially leaving KX/SP without a Thameslink station for a
while?