Annabel Smyth wrote:

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 at 20:07:26, Dave Arquati wrote:


Well, the ELL will be running 4tph along the South London Line to
Clapham Junction whenever it finally opens (2010 is currently floated).


Hmmm, useful. I thought it was going to Streatham, though, and that
way, or have they changed it yet again?

They dropped Streatham a while ago:
http://www.streathamsociety.org.uk/d...nforum_toc.htm

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(Michael Bell) wrote:

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(Solar Pennguin) wrote:

"John Rowland" wrote [about the NLL]...

The main bottleneck is generally alleged to be freight paths
between just west of Stratford and Camden Road (and to a lesser
extent as far as South Acton).

Since most of this frieght is coming from places outside London and
going to other places outisde London, does it look like there's a
case for opening outer orbital routes like
Cambridge/Huntingdon/Bedford? Even if they don't generate enough
passengers to be viable *on their own*, by helping freight avoid the
London bottlenecks, they'd still free up capacity for better
services in London such as improved NLL frequencies.

Oh, no, wait. That would mean integrated transport planning.
Silly me. It'll never happen...

The official alternative is from Felixstowe across the Fens to
Peterborough and then via Leicester to Nuneaton. Unfortunately it's
not electrified so Freightliner can't use their cheap class 86s as
they can via London. And the Government cut the funding for
improvements/clearance for 9'6" containers on that route recently.


On this morning's BBC Anglia news it was announced that the Government
is interested (I am sorry that I can't quote the exact woolly language
used) in re-opening a Cambridge-Oxford route, it was costed at 200
Million. No mention was made of whether it would be electrified. It
makes sense from all sorts of points of view.

While reopening part of the route (from Oxford to Bletchley, connecting
with the bit that never closed to Bedford) is being actively pursued the
latest Government instructions to the SRA were that no further work was to
be done on the Bedford-Cambridge section. It's only being considered for
passengers anyway.

You disappoint me but do not surprise me.

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Michael Bell

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 at 20:45:56, Richard J.
wrote:

Ooh, I haven't found that. Which station is it?
(I assume you mean that on the slopes, the treads remain horizontal and
separate as on an escalator, rather than just becoming a continuous
slope, as at Châtelet and elsewhere.)

They certainly have them like that at Roissy-Charles-de-Gaulle airport.
And yes, they have a moving staircase bit, then a straight bit, then
another moving staircase bit.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 8 March 2004

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 at 21:32:27, Dave Arquati wrote:

Annabel Smyth wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 at 20:07:26, Dave Arquati wrote:

Well, the ELL will be running 4tph along the South London Line to
Clapham Junction whenever it finally opens (2010 is currently floated).

Hmmm, useful. I thought it was going to Streatham, though, and
that
way, or have they changed it yet again?

That was the plan a while ago; the plan for the last couple of years has
been Clapham Junction via the SLL rather than Wimbledon via
Streatham. The other branches remain the same - West Croydon and
Crystal Palace via Sydenham, and the existing New Cross, all 4tph.

http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/3
if anyone's interested ;-)

Goodness, it would be lovely for my present job - no more Northern Line!
As it is, it's worth changing at London Bridge, if I can, to get the
South London Lines home. Or, failing that, even a bus from London
Bridge! Hate the N Line in the evenings.....
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Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 8 March 2004

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(Michael Bell) wrote:

While reopening part of the route (from Oxford to Bletchley,
connecting with the bit that never closed to Bedford) is being
actively pursued the latest Government instructions to the SRA were
that no further work was to be done on the Bedford-Cambridge section.
It's only being considered for passengers anyway.

You disappoint me but do not surprise me.

The latest news I've now seen elsewhere may suggest another change of tune
from the Government. We'll see in the months to come.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message
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There's a station on the Paris Metro which has hybrids:
escalators that a

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and

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shaped.

The funny-shaped building at the southern end of London Bridge (the bridge,
not the station) has a travescalator of the latter shape leading to the
basement. The public can use it.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

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Ooh, I haven't found that. Which station is it?
[...]

Mark Brader has answered for me.

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On 14 Apr 2004, Gary Jenkins wrote:

As an alternative to a Bakerloo extension is it feasible to hope for a
Jubilee line branch from North Greenwich in a south-easterly direction
towards Charlton. Eltham and Sidcup? Alternatively this could be a
completely new line going on northwards to Canary Wharf, Mile End and
Hackney and finishing off at Finsbury Park or Tottenham Hale.

Better yet, do this, then build a curve at Finsbury Park between the
Jubilee and the Piccadilly, then one at Rayner's Lane to get on to the
Metropolitan, then hop back on to the Jubilee at Wembley Park, and bingo -
THE FIGURE-OF-EIGHT LINE!

tom

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On 15 Apr 2004, Chetoph wrote:

Linking Moorgate to Cannon Street

The way to do this without hitting vaults, foundations, etc, is to drive
the tunnel _under_ the existing Northern Line tunnel (unless the vaults
are already under the tube); the GN Electrics platforms at Moorgate are
already that deep, i think, and new deep platforms at Cannon Street could
be built.

This would even be compatible with my earth-shatteringly sane Crossrail
3.5 (West Anglia - Liverpool Street - Moorgate - King's Cross - INFINITY
AND BEYOND) plan, creating a new and horrible rail nexus at Moorgate.

tom

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Anderson writes
Linking Moorgate to Cannon Street
The way to do this without hitting vaults, foundations, etc, is to drive
the tunnel _under_ the existing Northern Line tunnel (unless the vaults
are already under the tube); the GN Electrics platforms at Moorgate are
already that deep, i think,

No, the GN&CR is *above* the Northern Line.

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