Peter Smyth wrote:
"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
m...
So Richmond and Ealing trains will be stopping at Earls Court? Will
they reverse there or will they continue to the depot to reverse?
Will any be continuing to High Street Kensington (I actually saw a
train at Platform 4 last tuesday! 5:20 AM(!) a direct to Ealing or
Richmond or something)

Why aren't they running Richmond/Ealing trains to Edgware Road
(using slots and trains from the none-existant circle line)?

According to the TfL Journey Planner the Richmond/Ealing trains will
terminate at High Street Kensington. It gives the following
frequencies:

4tph Richmond - High St Ken
4tph Ealing Broadway - High St Ken
4tph Olympia - Earl's Court
8tph Wimbledon - Edgware Road
6tph Hammersmith - Whitechapel
6tph Hammersmith - Barking
6tph Whitechapel - Upminster

How did you obtain that information? The timetable function in the
Journey Planner doesn't ask for a date (and is currently giving an error
for Hammersmith H&C), and the departure board and customised journey
planner for Saturday 24 April still give the standard timetable
(including District line services to Whitechapel).

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message
...

According to the TfL Journey Planner the Richmond/Ealing trains will
terminate at High Street Kensington. It gives the following
frequencies:

4tph Richmond - High St Ken
4tph Ealing Broadway - High St Ken
4tph Olympia - Earl's Court
8tph Wimbledon - Edgware Road
6tph Hammersmith - Whitechapel
6tph Hammersmith - Barking
6tph Whitechapel - Upminster

How did you obtain that information? The timetable function in the
Journey Planner doesn't ask for a date (and is currently giving an error
for Hammersmith H&C), and the departure board and customised journey
planner for Saturday 24 April still give the standard timetable
(including District line services to Whitechapel).

The work doesn't start until Sat 1st May which is probably why you can't
find it.

Peter Smyth

Peter Smyth wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message
...

According to the TfL Journey Planner the Richmond/Ealing trains
will terminate at High Street Kensington. It gives the following
frequencies:

4tph Richmond - High St Ken
4tph Ealing Broadway - High St Ken
4tph Olympia - Earl's Court
8tph Wimbledon - Edgware Road
6tph Hammersmith - Whitechapel
6tph Hammersmith - Barking
6tph Whitechapel - Upminster

How did you obtain that information? The timetable function in the
Journey Planner doesn't ask for a date (and is currently giving an
error for Hammersmith H&C), and the departure board and customised
journey planner for Saturday 24 April still give the standard
timetable (including District line services to Whitechapel).

The work doesn't start until Sat 1st May which is probably why you
can't find it.


Well, the Journey Planner thinks it starts on 1st May, but according to
the LU web site:

"TRAVEL CHANGES FOR SATURDAY 24TH AND SUNDAY 25TH APRIL.
Circle Line: All weekend, no service.
....
District Line: All weekend, no service between Earl's Court and
Embankment.
....
Hammersmith & City Line: All weekend, a revised service will operate
with extra trains between Hammersmith and Barking via Shepherds Bush and
Kings Cross."

I have just been assured by London Travel Information on 020 7222 1234
that the work *will* go ahead this weekend, and that the Journey Planner
is wrong (but they said they were unable to report this error to the TfL
Journey Planner people and I had to do this myself).
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

In article ,
(Brimstone) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article ,
(Paul Weaver) wrote:

Why aren't they running Richmond/Ealing trains to Edgware Road (using
slots and trains from the none-existant circle line)?

The platforms North of High St aren't long enough for D stock trains.

As indicated before, that doesn't stop C stock being used.

Is there enough C stock to run the enhanced Wimbledon-Edgware Road service
as well as Ealing and Richmond services?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

(James) wrote in message . com...
Why aren't they running Richmond/Ealing trains to Edgware Road (using
slots and trains from the none-existant circle line)?

The platforms North of High St aren't long enough for D stock trains.

I think he meant using 6-car C-Stock. These certainly have clearance
issues in the Dagenham area (meaning no through routing Hammersmith
Met - Upminster), and may have on the Richmond/Ealing branches. There
also may not be enough C Stock.

There are no routing or clearance issues for C stock anywhere on the
Richmond or Ealing branches; both C and D stocks can go to and from
Richmond and Ealing without issue.

Brad

Peter Smyth wrote:

"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
m...

So Richmond and Ealing trains will be stopping at Earls Court? Will
they reverse there or will they continue to the depot to reverse? Will
any be continuing to High Street Kensington (I actually saw a train at
Platform 4 last tuesday! 5:20 AM(!) a direct to Ealing or Richmond or
something)

Why aren't they running Richmond/Ealing trains to Edgware Road (using
slots and trains from the none-existant circle line)?


According to the TfL Journey Planner the Richmond/Ealing trains will
terminate at High Street Kensington. It gives the following frequencies:

4tph Richmond - High St Ken
4tph Ealing Broadway - High St Ken
4tph Olympia - Earl's Court
8tph Wimbledon - Edgware Road
6tph Hammersmith - Whitechapel
6tph Hammersmith - Barking
6tph Whitechapel - Upminster

Peter Smyth

Does anyone know where exactly work is taking place? I'm guessing
multiple locations, otherwise they wouldn't close the whole Earl's Court
to Whitechapel section.


--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Why aren't they running Richmond/Ealing trains to Edgware Road (using
slots and trains from the none-existant circle line)?

The platforms North of High St aren't long enough for D stock trains.

I think he meant using 6-car C-Stock. These certainly have clearance
issues in the Dagenham area (meaning no through routing Hammersmith
Met - Upminster), and may have on the Richmond/Ealing branches. There
also may not be enough C Stock.

There are no routing or clearance issues for C stock anywhere on the
Richmond or Ealing branches; both C and D stocks can go to and from
Richmond and Ealing without issue.

Brad

Thanks, Brad. Here is an alternative solution I think would work:

DISTRICT LINE (D Stock):
6tph Edgware Rd (EB Middle Platform) (probably with some short turns) - Upminster
6tph Wimbledon - Hi Ken
3tph Richmond - Hi Ken

DISTRICT / HAMMERSMITH & CITY LINE (C Stock):
6tph Hammersmith - Whitechapel
6tph Wimbledon - Barking
3tph Edgware Rd (WB Middle Platform) - Richmond

PICCADILLY LINE (Tube Stock):
12tph Cockfosters - Heathrow
3tph Cockfosters - Uxbridge (runs on slow lines West of Hammersmith)
3tph Cockfosters - Rayner's Lane (runs on slow lines West of Hammersmith)
6tph Arnos Grove - Ealing Broadway (runs on slow lines West of Hammersmith)

"Richard J." wrote in message
...
Peter Smyth wrote:
"Richard J." wrote in message
...

According to the TfL Journey Planner the Richmond/Ealing trains
will terminate at High Street Kensington. It gives the following
frequencies:

4tph Richmond - High St Ken
4tph Ealing Broadway - High St Ken
4tph Olympia - Earl's Court
8tph Wimbledon - Edgware Road
6tph Hammersmith - Whitechapel
6tph Hammersmith - Barking
6tph Whitechapel - Upminster

How did you obtain that information? The timetable function in the
Journey Planner doesn't ask for a date (and is currently giving an
error for Hammersmith H&C), and the departure board and customised
journey planner for Saturday 24 April still give the standard
timetable (including District line services to Whitechapel).

The work doesn't start until Sat 1st May which is probably why you
can't find it.


Well, the Journey Planner thinks it starts on 1st May, but according to
the LU web site:

"TRAVEL CHANGES FOR SATURDAY 24TH AND SUNDAY 25TH APRIL.
Circle Line: All weekend, no service.
...
District Line: All weekend, no service between Earl's Court and
Embankment.
...
Hammersmith & City Line: All weekend, a revised service will operate
with extra trains between Hammersmith and Barking via Shepherds Bush and
Kings Cross."

The engineering work on 24th and 25th April is emergency weekend engineering
work to sort out a recently collapsed sewer.

In message , James
writes
PICCADILLY LINE (Tube Stock):
12tph Cockfosters - Heathrow
3tph Cockfosters - Uxbridge (runs on slow lines West of Hammersmith)
3tph Cockfosters - Rayner's Lane (runs on slow lines West of
Hammersmith)
6tph Arnos Grove - Ealing Broadway (runs on slow lines West of
Hammersmith)

Minor problem here... Picc drivers don't 'know' Ealing Broadway and
District drivers don't 'know' 73TS.

Apart from that, it would be very confusing to the punters as they would
have some 73 stock running all stations and some non-stop.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

In article , ] (Steve
Fitzgerald) wrote:

In message , James
writes
PICCADILLY LINE (Tube Stock):
12tph Cockfosters - Heathrow
3tph Cockfosters - Uxbridge (runs on slow lines West of Hammersmith)
3tph Cockfosters - Rayner's Lane (runs on slow lines West of
Hammersmith)
6tph Arnos Grove - Ealing Broadway (runs on slow lines West of
Hammersmith)

Minor problem here... Picc drivers don't 'know' Ealing Broadway and
District drivers don't 'know' 73TS.

Apart from that, it would be very confusing to the punters as they
would have some 73 stock running all stations and some non-stop.

This would be a bit problematic too:

DISTRICT LINE (D Stock):
6tph Edgware Rd (EB Middle Platform) (probably with some short turns) -
Upminster


--
Colin Rosenstiel