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You're proposing a multibillion pound railway and you're worried that
lengthening suburban platforms would be too expensive???


I agree with James. The plan is hopelessly unrealistic and it's probably a hoax.
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You're proposing a multibillion pound railway and you're worried that
lengthening suburban platforms would be too expensive???


I agree with James. The plan is hopelessly unrealistic and it's probably a hoax.


Having said that, hopelessly unrealistic plans can be quite fun. I
have my own unrealistic (but hopefully not hopeless) crossrail line
plan:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.dowden/xrail.htm
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James wrote:

You're proposing a multibillion pound railway and you're worried that
lengthening suburban platforms would be too expensive???


I agree with James. The plan is hopelessly unrealistic and it's probably
a hoax.


How could it be a hoax? He never claimed the plan was anything other
than his own, and ISTR Ken was making those sorts of comments around
that time.

Having said that, hopelessly unrealistic plans can be quite fun. I
have my own unrealistic (but hopefully not hopeless) crossrail line
plan:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.dowden/xrail.htm


Well I for one am glad it is hopeless. Why would passengers from
Dartford and the Sidcup Line or Orpington want to go to Lewisham then
back to Blackheath then loop round the docklands?
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(Aidan Stanger) wrote in message ...
James wrote:

You're proposing a multibillion pound railway and you're worried that
lengthening suburban platforms would be too expensive???

I agree with James. The plan is hopelessly unrealistic and it's probably
a hoax.


How could it be a hoax? He never claimed the plan was anything other
than his own, and ISTR Ken was making those sorts of comments around
that time.

Having said that, hopelessly unrealistic plans can be quite fun. I
have my own unrealistic (but hopefully not hopeless) crossrail line
plan:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.dowden/xrail.htm

Well I for one am glad it is hopeless. Why would passengers from
Dartford and the Sidcup Line or Orpington want to go to Lewisham then
back to Blackheath then loop round the docklands?


You're thinking of where these places are on the NSE Map. It's not as
crazy a route on a normal map. In fact, they might even want to go to
Docklands...
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James wrote:
(Aidan Stanger) wrote...
James wrote:

You're proposing a multibillion pound railway and you're worried that
lengthening suburban platforms would be too expensive???

I agree with James. The plan is hopelessly unrealistic and it's probably
a hoax.


How could it be a hoax? He never claimed the plan was anything other
than his own, and ISTR Ken was making those sorts of comments around
that time.

Having said that, hopelessly unrealistic plans can be quite fun. I
have my own unrealistic (but hopefully not hopeless) crossrail line
plan:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.dowden/xrail.htm

Well I for one am glad it is hopeless. Why would passengers from
Dartford and the Sidcup Line or Orpington want to go to Lewisham then
back to Blackheath then loop round the docklands?


You're thinking of where these places are on the NSE Map.


Actually I was thinking of their position on the ground, having lived within
walking distance of Albany Park station for over four years.

It's not as crazy a route on a normal map.


'Tis crazier! Blackheath is N of Lee and E of Lewisham (which is NW of Lee).

In fact, they might even want to go to Docklands...


In which case they can catch the DLR

A Jubilee branch to Eltham would be a better way of providing SE London with
a fast link to Docklands.


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This isn't Crossrail, as such, but we have often wondered why there is
no direct rail link between Brixton and Streatham, but one has to change
at Herne Hill. Physically, it would be possible for one train to do
that journey - why don't they?
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"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
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This isn't Crossrail, as such, but we have often wondered why there is
no direct rail link between Brixton and Streatham, but one has to change
at Herne Hill. Physically, it would be possible for one train to do
that journey - why don't they?
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Website updated 8 March 2004


Because those two stations are on different routes. The rail network is made
up of routes, most of which go to and from terminals such as Victoria,
London Bridge, Blackfriars etc. It's already a complex network, and the more
routes there are the less frequently they can run. You cannot expect a
direct route from every station to every other station.


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On 24 Apr 2004, James wrote:

You're proposing a multibillion pound railway and you're worried that
lengthening suburban platforms would be too expensive???


I agree with James. The plan is hopelessly unrealistic and it's
probably a hoax.


Having said that, hopelessly unrealistic plans can be quite fun. I
have my own unrealistic (but hopefully not hopeless) crossrail line
plan:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/james.dowden/xrail.htm


I really think we should start a gallery of crossrail proposals, since
everyone seems to have one. We could have awards - Best Relief of
Congestion, Best Relief Of Central London Interchange, Best Provision of
Access to Regenerating Areas, Most Entertainingly Unrealistic, etc.

tom

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I really think we should start a gallery of crossrail proposals, since
everyone seems to have one. We could have awards - Best Relief of
Congestion, Best Relief Of Central London Interchange, Best Provision of
Access to Regenerating Areas, Most Entertainingly Unrealistic, etc.


If anyone has such proposals, e-mail them to me, and I will gladly set
up such a gallery.
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"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
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I really think we should start a gallery of crossrail
proposals, since everyone seems to have one.
We could have awards - Best Relief of Congestion,
Best Relief Of Central London Interchange,
Best Provision of Access to Regenerating Areas,
Most Entertainingly Unrealistic, etc.


There should be a category for "Most contrived way of serving author's local
station"

There's always my BlackTrack proposal...
http://www.geocities.com/pikkulapsi/ellideas.html

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