"CJG Now Thankfully Living In The North" wrote in
message m...

Unfortunely London Underground do not offer a resdential training
course for customers about how to use ticket barriers. So those scum
that dare to use London Underground for the first time or only
occasionaly should obviously be banned. If people not going through
ticket barriers in less than 5.8 seconds bothers you so much why not
just use a different gate?
As a casual user of London Underground it is blantly obvious to me its
the regular users who can go through the gates at London Underground
who are the problem. These people usually travel before 9am and after
5pm and do one or more of the following:

1) Tut loudly when your valid ticket flashes up "Seek Assistance" and
then glare at you like your scum when you try and find someone to help
2) Interupt and shout at staff until they get attention when their
ticket does the same even if the member of staff is busy
3) Refers to the tourists who add billions of pounds to the economy
anually as "f*cking tourists". Miss "I Live in Sussex But Come In
London To Make Money Because A Job Where I Live Doesn't Pay So Much
and Probably Have Slightly Less Right To Be London Than The Tourists
Who Actually Are Spending Nights In London Even If Its In A Hotel" you
know who you are.
4) Does not see anyone else when they crash into them. Collide with
them. Kick their things.
5)Can not understand why when your holding on to a laptop case and two
other bags crushed on a train trying to keep your balance as there is
nothing to hold on and the station comes into a station you do not
leap out of there way straight away but infact waits until the train
comes to a stop or about to come to a stop ignoring their "excuse
me's" when start 3 seconds after they discover they are smaller than
you and can not budge you out of the way.

I prefer the people who don't know how to use the ticket machines. Or
the gates. Or can't understand the map. Or stand in the door because
they don't think about moving down the platform for the simple reason
that at least these people are polite. If you ask them to move out of
the way from standing in the middle of the passage staring at the map
they will. Not just look at you as those things with legs and arms
that are on the train when I get on the train don't usually talk why
is this one talking?

Sounds almost like a Ben Elton rant from the early Eighties ;-)

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 at 08:41:58, Dan Gravell
wrote:

Don't get that much myself... but I suppose that's a dubious advantage
of most of my travelling being through Streatham which, alas, doesn't
have gates.

Why "alas"? Actually, I am always intrigued that Blackfriars main line
doesn't, either, so any computer keeping track of what I do with my
season ticket must get very confused..... first heard of on a bus headed
towards Streatham, then next reappears at Blackfriars LUL.....

Or, even worse, when I get on the system at Clapham or Stockwell and
then simply disappear - if I change at Bank, as I occasionally do, on to
the DLR, there is no exit gate.....
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 8 March 2004

Annabel Smyth wrote:

Why "alas"? Actually, I am always intrigued that Blackfriars main line
doesn't, either, so any computer keeping track of what I do with my
season ticket must get very confused..... first heard of on a bus headed
towards Streatham, then next reappears at Blackfriars LUL.....

Or, even worse, when I get on the system at Clapham or Stockwell and
then simply disappear - if I change at Bank, as I occasionally do, on to
the DLR, there is no exit gate.....

Well I don't know about the economics of whether buying new gates make
sense, but just from a naive revenue protection/subjectively moralistic
point of view.

As far as I'm concerned the system must think I'm constantly on the
system making circular trips from City Thameslink and London Bridge

Dan

Edward Cowling wrote:

Left handed ticket users can be hilarious. Some do a kind
of contortion to use their left hand to insert the ticket. I even
had one put the ticket in my slot on the next barrier to the left,
which was nice of him :-)

All these contortions and you can't help thinking how hard
can it be to hold a ticket that weighs about 5 grams in your
right hand ??!!


Right handed *******s are the ones I find infuriating, especially the stupid
****s that have the audacity to design systems like ticket barriers the
wrong way round. I've absolutely no tolerance for right handed people,
they're the most bigoted arrogant ****s you're ever likely to find on the
underground.


--
Ian Tindale

In article , Edward Cowling wrote:

Left handed ticket users can be hilarious. Some do a kind
of contortion to use their left hand to insert the ticket. I even
had one put the ticket in my slot on the next barrier to the left,
which was nice of him :-)

All these contortions and you can't help thinking how hard
can it be to hold a ticket that weighs about 5 grams in your
right hand ??!!

Not very hard at all, which is why I've always used my right hand for
this despite being left-handed. There really are people who don't
(assuming they have no disability depriving them of the use of their
right hand)?!

Niklas
--
merl so when is BGP going to die
Salkin When BGP dies, will the tombstone say "RIP"?

"CJG Now Thankfully Living In The North" wrote in
message m...

1) Walk to barrier
2) Realise what that little piece of card they were given half an hour
later is for
3) Open handbag (because it usually is a woman)
4) Rake around in handbag for a bit
5) Get out purse
6) Find ticket in purse
7) Try to insert ticket in top of machine
8) Realise mistake and insert ticket in the front of the machine
9) Stand there for a bit wondering why gates haven't opened
10) Take ticket from machine, gates open
11) Stand there for a bit wondering if it's safe to go through
12) Pass through the barrier

.... or is it just me who comes across these idiots?


In (2), I think you mean "earlier", not "later"!

No, I come across this sort of person very often whenever I go up to London.
Their mistake is not that they are unaware of how to use ticket barriers
(everyone's got to learn somehow), it's that they stand in front of the
barriers behaving like clueless morons instead of having the nouse and the
courtesy to stand on one side watching what everyone else does until they've
got the hang of things. While they're standing aside, they can also find
their ticket.

Sadly many people seem to be congenitally incapable of finding their ticket
in advance of needing it (eg as they are walking up to the barrier), in the
same way that a lot of people (a large proportion of them being women) don't
start to look for their cash or credit card in a supermarket queue until
they are presented with the bill.

One thing that most people do manage to get right is the
stand-on-the-right-overtake-on-the-left rule on escalators on the
Underground. If only they would do the same on escalators in shops instead
of standing side-by-side blocking the whole width.

In article m, Martin Underwood wrote:

One thing that most people do manage to get right is the
stand-on-the-right-overtake-on-the-left rule on escalators on the
Underground. If only they would do the same on escalators in shops instead
of standing side-by-side blocking the whole width.

Indeed. Another thing most people get right is letting people off the
train before trying to get on.

Most of those who don't get this right (seems to be more common on NR
than on the Underground) seem to be teenagers, and some even have the
gall to be offended when I insist on getting off first.

Niklas
--
There are many roller coaster rides that are basically railguns.
-- Willem

In message m, Martin
Underwood writes
Sadly many people seem to be congenitally incapable of finding their ticket
in advance of needing it (eg as they are walking up to the barrier), in the
same way that a lot of people (a large proportion of them being women) don't
start to look for their cash or credit card in a supermarket queue until
they are presented with the bill.

This was mentioned on here a while ago and since then I've made it a
point to notice whether more women than men have trouble finding their
tickets.

From my experience I'd say that it's fairly evenly balanced with women
having to search in the bottom of their handbags for the elusive ticket
and men have to search through several days worth of old tickets in
their many pockets.
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.

"Ian Tindale" wrote in message
...
Edward Cowling wrote:

Left handed ticket users can be hilarious. Some do a kind
of contortion to use their left hand to insert the ticket. I even
had one put the ticket in my slot on the next barrier to the left,
which was nice of him :-)

All these contortions and you can't help thinking how hard
can it be to hold a ticket that weighs about 5 grams in your
right hand ??!!

Right handed *******s are the ones I find infuriating, especially the
stupid
****s that have the audacity to design systems like ticket barriers the
wrong way round. I've absolutely no tolerance for right handed people,
they're the most bigoted arrogant ****s you're ever likely to find on the
underground.

Two points:

- Right-handers are the majority, so it's not unreasonable that where a
design has to be "handed", right-handed is chosen.

- Why should an action such as holding a ticket be a "handed" operation? I'm
sure as a right-hander I'd have no difficulty whatsoever holding a ticket in
my left hand and feeding into a slot on the left side of the barrier if
that's how the barriers were designed. Are left-handed people less
ambidextrous (apart from skilled actions like writing) than right-handed
people?

"Niklas Karlsson" wrote in message
...
In article m, Martin
Underwood wrote:

One thing that most people do manage to get right is the
stand-on-the-right-overtake-on-the-left rule on escalators on the
Underground. If only they would do the same on escalators in shops
instead
of standing side-by-side blocking the whole width.

Indeed. Another thing most people get right is letting people off the
train before trying to get on.

Most of those who don't get this right (seems to be more common on NR
than on the Underground) seem to be teenagers, and some even have the
gall to be offended when I insist on getting off first.

I'm surprised that no-one has tried to introduce a policy of
stand-on-the-left (for both inside and outside) at train and bus doorways,
which would allow people to get on and off simultaneously.