On Sun, 02 May 2004 09:03:42 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
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In article , Boltar
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Just beyond you have the old
station and here for some reason a thin layer of concrete (or something like
it) has been poured over the tracks.

Wild speculation: I wonder if there's been any movie filming done down
there? If so, it might be as a safety measure or to make it esy to lay a
camera track.

The was a scene in Stephen Poliakoff's 1990 film 'Hidden City' shot in
the tunnel; see my web-page:

http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...lmtv/hcity.htm
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In article , SpamTrapSeeSig
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Movie productions go to amazing lengths, for example all the Minis used
underground in the remake of the Italian Job were actually electric, to
comply with the authorities' requirements.

If you visit Disney Studios in Marne-le-Vallee, near Paris, one of the
shows they do is all about stunts.

To do stunts involving long sequences of cars driving backwards, they
have a separate car built back-to-front, with the real driver low down
looking out of the boot and the apparent driver just holding a dummy
steering wheel.

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The Kingsway Subway has been open to the public for the past few days.
...
this is I believe the first time, since the trams went, that
members of the public have been able to simply walk in off the
street, free of charge, down the slope and explore the subway ...

Most likely the first time *ever*. The general public would hardly
have been permitted to enter by walking along the tracks when it was
in service, would they?
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(Mark Brader) wrote in message ...
The Kingsway Subway has been open to the public for the past few days.
...
this is I believe the first time, since the trams went, that
members of the public have been able to simply walk in off the
street, free of charge, down the slope and explore the subway ...

Most likely the first time *ever*. The general public would hardly
have been permitted to enter by walking along the tracks when it was
in service, would they?

Especially since - judgeing by the placement of the tracks - there
seemed to have been very little clearance between the tram sides and
the tunnel walls! Shame the tunnel was only open to about 100 yards
beyond Holborn station, but nonetheless.

"MetroGnome" wrote in message
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Just found this on a bus mailing list:

Thanks! I loved it!

I wondered about the roundels in the station. Did all tram stops have a
plethora of roundels? I wonder why the practice of signs facing alighting
passengers hasn't been carried over to bus stops to this day.

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In article , (John Rowland) wrote:

I wondered about the roundels in the station. Did all tram stops have a
plethora of roundels? I wonder why the practice of signs facing alighting
passengers hasn't been carried over to bus stops to this day.

No: it was just at the two stations in the subway (where, being island platforms,
passengers alighted via the right-facing driver's platform rather than elsewhere
at the back).

Tram stops were many and varied in their form and shape, dating back to the
pre-LT times. In and around Lewisham where I grew up there were quite a few
ex-LCC ones, which had a shape not dissimilar to an old carpet-beater, with the
words "ALL CARS STOP HERE". In the final few years of trams some stop flags
were of the standard LT colour-on-white (for compulsory) and white-on-colour
(for request), the colour for trams being blue.

Occasionally there was a refuge with the tram stop on, usually the stop was at
the kerbside and passengers had to go out into the road to board the tram,
other traffic being required to stop while they did so.

I hope this contribution does not offend you, John.

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In article ,
(John Rowland) wrote:

I wondered about the roundels in the station.
Did all tram stops have a plethora of roundels?
I wonder why the practice of signs facing alighting
passengers hasn't been carried over to bus stops to this day.

No: it was just at the two stations in the subway (where,
being island platforms, passengers alighted via the
right-facing driver's platform rather than elsewhere at the back).

Thanks.

I've just had a vague recollection of photos of tram islands at Manor
House - were they adorned with roundels as well?

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In article , (John Rowland) wrote:

I've just had a vague recollection of photos of tram islands at Manor
House - were they adorned with roundels as well?

You may be right. During the tram era (well, the final 10 years of it!) I
was in South London, they had gone (as had the trolleybuses) when I
was in that area in the 1970s (though there was a manhole cover in
Newington Green which was something to do with the conduit - I meant
to do a "brass rubbing" of it before I moved!).

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"John Rowland" wrote:

I wondered about the roundels in the station. Did all tram stops have a
plethora of roundels?

No - just the two sub-surface stations. These roundels were situated at two
levels - some for lower deck and some for upper deck passengers. They were
similar in size and shape to Underground station roundels, but in the
colours of a compulsory tram stop sign - the station name was in white
lettering on a black bar, across a blue circle.


I wonder why the practice of signs facing alighting
passengers hasn't been carried over to bus stops to this day.

Over the past few years, names have been added to bus stop flags, so that
they face *approaching* passengers - which is of considerably more use.
Some DLR stations on the Beckton line also have station nameboards that face
approaching trains, for the benefit of passengers looking out of the front
of the train.



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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 at 17:28:28, MetroGnome
wrote:

Over the past few years, names have been added to bus stop flags, so that
they face *approaching* passengers - which is of considerably more use.
Some DLR stations on the Beckton line also have station nameboards that face
approaching trains, for the benefit of passengers looking out of the front
of the train.

And very useful they are, too. It would be even more useful if buses
would *stop* where they're supposed to. How many times have I been
carried past Lambeth Town Hall, especially on a 159. So I complain to
the conductor, who says "Did you ring the bell?"

But when I say "Why should I have to, it's a compulsory stop!" they just
look at me blankly as though they had never heard of such a concept!

At least the DLR stops automatically.....
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