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Well today I ventured down the tunnels and I'm glad I did , was a very
interesting experience. The so called "art" exhibition (its the usual
modern-art pretentious pseudo-intellectual crap conjured up by art students
who can't even spell "talent" , never mind muster any) hardly takes up any
space so most of the tunnels are as-is.
The initial section from the ramp looks pretty untouched , the tracks are
still in place and nothing extra has been added. Just beyond you have the old
station and here for some reason a thin layer of concrete (or something like
it) has been poured over the tracks. However the rest of it remains
unaffected , even the old exits are still there and the stairs just end as
gratings in the street above. South beyond the station the tracks reappear
and continue right along to the current "end" of the tunnel (which you weren't
supposed to go down but I did anyway). I put end in quotes since the untouched
part of the tunnel ends in some brick structures blocking most of it and
some concrete beams appearing in the roof. You could walk further down but
there was no lighting and I couldn't see how much further it went, presumably
not much as the "new" ramp to the bit of the tunnel converted to a road would
start soon.
One thing worried me about this visit. The iron beams holding up the roof
are also holding up part of the road above and I'm not sure I'd really want
to be in a 40 ton truck driving across some pretty rusty looking beams.

Well worth a visit all in all. I hope they open them up again in future
though preferable without the junk masquarading as art inside.

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Well today I ventured down the tunnels and I'm glad I did , was a
very interesting experience. The so called "art" exhibition (its
the usual modern-art pretentious pseudo-intellectual crap conjured
up by art students who can't even spell "talent" , never mind
muster any) hardly takes up any space so most of the tunnels are
as-is.


The art is pretty astonishingly crap. It is indeed the usual poorly
done left wing student crap. I could have done better myself.

Well worth a visit all in all. I hope they open them up again in
future though preferable without the junk masquarading as art
inside.


It was very interesting being able to have a look round. It would be
brilliant if they opened it again. When I looked there was a strange
combination of art-studenty looking type and transport enthusiasts, and
a few odd people who looked like a combination of the two. I'd rather
stupidly left my good camera at home so the photos I did take will turn
out horrible probably. I saw someone taking quite a lot of photos and
if he's around here I'd very much appreciate it if he put some up on
the internet.

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Well today I ventured down the tunnels and I'm glad I did , was a
very interesting experience. The so called "art" exhibition (its
the usual modern-art pretentious pseudo-intellectual crap conjured
up by art students who can't even spell "talent" , never mind
muster any) hardly takes up any space so most of the tunnels are
as-is.


The art is pretty astonishingly crap. It is indeed the usual poorly
done left wing student crap. I could have done better myself.


I don't know - I thought the neo-Communist Russia posters were fun,
and the video installation was quite moving. A lot of it was a bit
wank, though.

Well worth a visit all in all. I hope they open them up again in
future though preferable without the junk masquarading as art
inside.


It was very interesting being able to have a look round. It would be
brilliant if they opened it again. When I looked there was a strange
combination of art-studenty looking type and transport enthusiasts, and
a few odd people who looked like a combination of the two. I'd rather
stupidly left my good camera at home so the photos I did take will turn
out horrible probably. I saw someone taking quite a lot of photos and
if he's around here I'd very much appreciate it if he put some up on
the internet.


That could have been me if it was around 13:30 - black jacket,
glasses, too many bags?!
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Just beyond you have the old
station and here for some reason a thin layer of concrete (or something like
it) has been poured over the tracks.


Wild speculation: I wonder if there's been any movie filming done down
there? If so, it might be as a safety measure or to make it esy to lay a
camera track.

offI fell asleep watching 'the Russia House' on ITV1 last night, but
not before I noticed the large panes of glass/perspex fitted over the
outside of the church (there's a lot of plot development at the top of
an open, onion-dome bell tower). My guess is that it was because of wind
blowing through, making dialogue impossible to record properly (or
perhaps because just to keep cast + crew warm. It was probably freezing
up there). I never noticed it in the cinema, but after being graded for
TV, the reflections were clearly obvious, especially if the camera
tracked or panned quickly. /off

Movie productions go to amazing lengths, for example all the Minis used
underground in the remake of the Italian Job were actually electric, to
comply with the authorities' requirements.

"I said charge it, not blow the bloody battery up!"

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On Sun, 02 May 2004 09:03:42 GMT, SpamTrapSeeSig
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In article , Boltar
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Just beyond you have the old
station and here for some reason a thin layer of concrete (or something like
it) has been poured over the tracks.


Wild speculation: I wonder if there's been any movie filming done down
there? If so, it might be as a safety measure or to make it esy to lay a
camera track.


The was a scene in Stephen Poliakoff's 1990 film 'Hidden City' shot in
the tunnel; see my web-page:

http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...lmtv/hcity.htm
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In article , SpamTrapSeeSig
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Movie productions go to amazing lengths, for example all the Minis used
underground in the remake of the Italian Job were actually electric, to
comply with the authorities' requirements.


If you visit Disney Studios in Marne-le-Vallee, near Paris, one of the
shows they do is all about stunts.

To do stunts involving long sequences of cars driving backwards, they
have a separate car built back-to-front, with the real driver low down
looking out of the boot and the apparent driver just holding a dummy
steering wheel.

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