Overground 378232 will debut on the 0648 Barking - Gospel Oak tomorrow.

Photos:
https://mobile.twitter.com/cmpd_date...14271866798080

C.

Boltar vindicated! TfL converted to Boltar's point of view! Let the
church bells ring out! I travelled in that 378 along GOBLIN today
at 13.00.

Very unusually, there were station staff on the platform and
they advised passengers to move further down the platform
as the train would be longer than normal. 387232 soon arrived
and there were empty seats available!

To prepare passengers for electric trains, the two car 172s will
now come to a halt at the end of platforms even if the exit is
at the other end. Clearly TfL expect the entire service to convert
to EMUs sooner rather than later.

It was a double first for me today. While waiting for the 378,
two westbound freight trains in succession lumbered through
Leyton Midland Road Station. I've never experienced that before.

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:10:40 +0000
Robin9 wrote:
Boltar vindicated! TfL converted to Boltar's point of view! Let the
church bells ring out! I travelled in that 378 along GOBLIN today
at 13.00.

I get no pleasure from it. Its our money these clowns have wasted on the 710
herd of white elephants. And apart from the dodgy software they're also fugly
compared to the 378s.

It was a double first for me today. While waiting for the 378,
two westbound freight trains in succession lumbered through
Leyton Midland Road Station. I've never experienced that before.

Spend enough time at Highbury waiting for an ELL train to finally turn up and
then wait 7 mins for it to reverse and you'll see plenty of freight trains go
past.

On 29/01/2019 20:39, wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:10:40 +0000
Robin9 wrote:
Boltar vindicated! TfL converted to Boltar's point of view! Let the
church bells ring out! I travelled in that 378 along GOBLIN today
at 13.00.

I get no pleasure from it. Its our money these clowns have wasted on the 710
herd of white elephants. And apart from the dodgy software they're also fugly
compared to the 378s.

It was a double first for me today. While waiting for the 378,
two westbound freight trains in succession lumbered through
Leyton Midland Road Station. I've never experienced that before.

Spend enough time at Highbury waiting for an ELL train to finally turn up and
then wait 7 mins for it to reverse and you'll see plenty of freight trains go
past.

Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.

--
Basil Jet - Current favourite song...
What by Bruce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtJEAud9vao

On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 12:44:08 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 29/01/2019 20:39, wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:10:40 +0000
Robin9 wrote:
Boltar vindicated! TfL converted to Boltar's point of view! Let the
church bells ring out! I travelled in that 378 along GOBLIN today
at 13.00.

I get no pleasure from it. Its our money these clowns have wasted on the 710
herd of white elephants. And apart from the dodgy software they're also fugly

compared to the 378s.

It was a double first for me today. While waiting for the 378,
two westbound freight trains in succession lumbered through
Leyton Midland Road Station. I've never experienced that before.

Spend enough time at Highbury waiting for an ELL train to finally turn up and

then wait 7 mins for it to reverse and you'll see plenty of freight trains go

past.

Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.

When the East London Line moved from being a tube line to part of the overground
we were promised a metro level service. So far they're failed to deliver. A
10 minute wait in the morning rush hour is NOT acceptable. As for turn around
time - in many other countries a driver is waiting at the terminus for a train
to arrive and he immediately takes over. Stepping back I believe its called.
Turn around time about 1 minute.

In message , at 12:44:08 on Wed, 30 Jan
2019, Basil Jet remarked:

Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.
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Roland Perry

On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:46:24 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:44:08 on Wed, 30 Jan
2019, Basil Jet remarked:

Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.
___________________________
/| /| | |
||__|| | Please don't |
/ O O\__ feed |
/ \ the trolls |
/ \ \ |
/ _ \ \ ----------------------
/ |\____\ \ ||
/ | | | |\____/ ||
/ \|_|_|/ | __||
/ / \ |____| ||
/ | | /| | --|
| | |// |____ --|
* _ | |_|_|_| | \-/
*-- _--\ _ \ // |
/ _ \\ _ // | /
* / \_ /- | - | |
* ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________
--

Self portrait?

In message , at 19:51:23 on Wed, 30 Jan
2019, remarked:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:46:24 +0000
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:44:08 on Wed, 30 Jan
2019, Basil Jet remarked:

Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.
___________________________
/| /| | |
||__|| | Please don't |
/ O O\__ feed |
/ \ the trolls |
/ \ \ |
/ _ \ \ ----------------------
/ |\____\ \ ||
/ | | | |\____/ ||
/ \|_|_|/ | __||
/ / \ |____| ||
/ | | /| | --|
| | |// |____ --|
* _ | |_|_|_| | \-/
*-- _--\ _ \ // |
/ _ \\ _ // | /
* / \_ /- | - | |
* ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________
--

Self portrait?

In the sense that I could be holding a notice saying "don't feed the
trolls", then yes.
--
Roland Perry

Goblin had overhead line problems yesterday and a reduced
service with 172s only was in operation.

I suspect that the decision to continue terminating the service
at Gospel Oak and consequently have four car trains instead of
five will cause over crowding quite quickly. Already some of the
378s are pretty full with standing passengers.

If the great mantra of rail enthusiasts - suppressed demand - is
valid, the line might well see increased patronage long before
the Barking Riverside extension comes into play. It's possible
that eventually four car trains will be inadequate. Then, TfL will
have to negotiate for paths between Gospel Oak and Willesden
Junction and the platforms will have to be extended further. My
local station could easily accommodate six car trains.

Robin9 wrote:

Goblin had overhead line problems yesterday and a reduced
service with 172s only was in operation.

I suspect that the decision to continue terminating the service
at Gospel Oak and consequently have four car trains instead of
five will cause over crowding quite quickly. Already some of the
378s are pretty full with standing passengers.

If the great mantra of rail enthusiasts - suppressed demand - is
valid, the line might well see increased patronage long before
the Barking Riverside extension comes into play. It's possible
that eventually four car trains will be inadequate. Then, TfL will
have to negotiate for paths between Gospel Oak and Willesden
Junction and the platforms will have to be extended further. My
local station could easily accommodate six car trains.

Wouldn't it be possible simply to run a more frequent GOBRLIN service, say
5 tph?