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17:32:13 on Thu, 28 Mar 2019, Robin remarked: On 28/03/2019 15:50, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 15:06:02 on Thu, 28 Mar 2019, Robin remarked: On 28/03/2019 14:23, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 11:24:52 on Thu, 28 Mar 2019, Anna Noyd-Dryver remarked: Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 16:51:27 on Wed, 27 Mar 2019, Natalie Amery remarked: There aren't all that many Underground stations with public toilets, either. The only one that springs to mind immediately is Barons Court, we'd just travelled from Hounslow West and my other half was absolutely bursting by the time we got there. More than you'd think: http://content.tfl.gov.uk/toilets-map.pdf That's not toilets at TfL stations, it's largely toilets somewhere near TfL stations. The clue being the black lozenge "outside the gateline". With a side order of "Dagger": not managed by TfL. Only the dagger means it’s not toilets at TfL stations (and not necessarily even then; red-with-dagger ie not TfL managed but still inside the gateline features on the map). Â*There's three situations: Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Inside the gateline (and probably inevitably managed by TfL, but Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* no doubt someone can find a counter-example) Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Outside the gateline but managed by TfL (and probably therefore Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* quite close to the gateline/ticket office but no doubt someone Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* can find a counter-example) Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Situated and managed by "someone else". Most stations on the map aren’t marked with the dagger. Â*I can't see any in Z1 which aren't. I can't see why that matters. Because of the higher concentration of passengers. But if it does there's Baker Street.Â* Plus Shoreditch High Street on the Overground. Fair enough (and I forgot the latter was infamously Z1; disabled toilet only, does it need a RADAR key? I'll forgive the thread drift from Underground Stations to Overground). That's immensely kind of you. It was indeed stupid of me to think that someone who posted about the map that "That's not toilets at TfL stations..." expected comments about TfL stations other than underground stations. I'm not calling you stupid (nor a fish from Wanda) but you haven't been paying attention. Some highlights from the quping above: There aren't all that many Underground stations with public toilets More than you'd think etc -- Roland Perry |
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28 Mar 2019, Natalie Amery remarked: In article , Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 11:24:52 on Thu, 28 Mar 2019, Anna Noyd-Dryver remarked: If you wish to claim that toilets outside the gateline, but in the station building and managed by the station operator aren’t "at" the station, then surely many NR stations with toilets also "don’t" have them (eg Paddington, Bristol Parkway, Swansea). "Station operator" - see above for whether that's TfL or National Rail. So yes, a toilet at say Kings Cross sited and managed by the NR operator (in that case Network Rail) isn't in the tube station. From personal experience the toilets are Westminster (20p) Recent experience, I'm pretty sure they've been 50p for about a decade. and Monument (free) are within the tube station building (although in the outside wall at Westminster) albeit not apparently managed by TfL. The Westminster toilets are in an entirely council pedestrian underpass. Which also has a link to the tube station, which may have confused you. I believe the map is now incorrect in that the toilets in Charing Cross station are now free to use. Dunno. -- Roland Perry |
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