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Old June 2nd 19, 01:03 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Uber and the VAT man

On 01/06/2019 07:51, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 00:26:56 on Sat, 1 Jun
2019, JNugent remarked:
On 31/05/2019 09:24, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:01:55 on Thu, 30 May
2019, Recliner remarked:

I don't know what form their subsequent internal accounting procedures
take, but if it were their practice to issue invoices to the driver, I
strongly suspect that we would have heard about that by now.

There's no need to speculate: Uber operates a weekly billing cycle,
Mon-Mon, and issues statements to drivers on Tuesdays. Their net money,
after User's fee, is then transferred to their accounts on Wednesday.

https://www.ridester.com/uber-payment/amp/

https://www.ridesharingdriver.com/ho...vers-get-paid-
and-how-to-resolve-payment-errors/

Thanks for digging that out. It is just as I expected.
One thing I noticed from those is that Uber automatically repays
drivers
for any tolls they have to pay when carrying fares. But not when empty. So
if a driver carried a fare across a toll bridge/tunnel, the toll is added
to the fare and repaid to the driver. But if the driver then has to return
home empty, they have to pay the fare out of their own pocket. So that is
like a self-employed cabbie, not an employee.


Taxi fare schedules with which i am familiar specify that any toll on
the outward journey is doubled, so as to cater for the return journey.

So that's a difference where Uber is concerned, not a similarity.


Following up on a question I asked earlier, I see that the biggest firm
in my locality has as T&C:


I wasn't talking about the policies of a "firm".

I was describing the law, as provided by regulation and local by-law,
made, as the case may be, under the Metropolitan Public Carriage Act
1869 (as amended), the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 and/or the Local
Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976.

As I am sure you know, the law does not prescribe or control the charges
made by the drivers or operators of private hire cars (including Uber).
It only controls the fares of taxis. The private hire industry may
charge what it likes (subject to martket conditions).

All fares are quoted in Pounds (£) Sterling GBP. The pick up
fare includes initial 30 minutes waiting time, car parking fees,
motorway toll fees and any congestion charges.

But then kind of contradicts itself (drop-off fees are really a parking
charge for the drop-off area, being metered by time) with:

Stansted Airport and London Luton Airport have introduced a drop
off fee to drivers on exiting the airport drop off area, this
fee is currently set at £3.50[1] for Stansted and £3.00 for
Luton. This is an addition(sic) charge to the listed pricing.


All fine. They can do as they like. There is no question of their not
being allowed to do it. They are not taxis, after all.

The pick-up area at Stansted is a bus-ride away from the terminal
building, which is a bit inconvenient if you've ordered a taxi. Luton
airport describes its premium facility as both pick-up and drop-off.
Birmingham airport (like Stansted) as only drop-off, but I've been
picked up there by taxis.

[1] According to the airport it's £4 for the first 10 minutes, then
£1/minute.

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