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On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
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Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second runway
at Gatwick.


....or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail spur
- at Manston.
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On 18/06/2019 20:02, JNugent wrote:
On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
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Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second runway
at Gatwick.


...or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail spur
- at Manston.

They need Manston to park all the lorries on 1st November

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On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48668001


Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second runway at
Gatwick.


...or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail spur -
at Manston.


only in their dreams



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On 18/06/2019 20:02, JNugent wrote:
On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48668001


Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second runway
at Gatwick.


...or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail spur
- at Manston.


I think the extra runway is to steal the intercontinental passengers who
are currently transferring at Schiphol, so I don't see how a new
terminal at Manston is going to help.

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On 19/06/2019 00:15, Basil Jet wrote:
On 18/06/2019 20:02, JNugent wrote:
On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48668001

Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second
runway at Gatwick.


...or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail
spur - at Manston.


I think the extra runway is to steal the intercontinental passengers who
are currently transferring at Schiphol, so I don't see how a new
terminal at Manston is going to help.


It would mean that many short haul travellers in Kent and South East
Sussex would not have to slog over to Heathrow or even over to Stansted
or Gatwick, thereby reeieving them of the need to use the M25.


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JNugent wrote:
On 19/06/2019 00:15, Basil Jet wrote:
On 18/06/2019 20:02, JNugent wrote:
On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48668001

Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second
runway at Gatwick.

...or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail
spur - at Manston.


I think the extra runway is to steal the intercontinental passengers who
are currently transferring at Schiphol, so I don't see how a new
terminal at Manston is going to help.


It would mean that many short haul travellers in Kent and South East
Sussex would not have to slog over to Heathrow or even over to Stansted
or Gatwick, thereby reeieving them of the need to use the M25.


Almost no airlines were interested in using it; the local catchment area is
much too small.

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"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 19/06/2019 00:15, Basil Jet wrote:
On 18/06/2019 20:02, JNugent wrote:
On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48668001

Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second runway
at Gatwick.

...or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail
spur - at Manston.


I think the extra runway is to steal the intercontinental passengers who
are currently transferring at Schiphol, so I don't see how a new terminal
at Manston is going to help.


It would mean that many short haul travellers in Kent and South East
Sussex would not have to slog over to Heathrow or even over to Stansted or
Gatwick, thereby reeieving them of the need to use the M25.


for most of them Gatwick is easier than Manston could ever be

and I doubt very much that taking airport customers off the M25 would make a
visible dent in the congestion on that road

tim



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On 18/06/2019 20:02, JNugent wrote:
On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48668001

Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second runway
at Gatwick.


...or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail
spur - at Manston.


I think the extra runway is to steal the intercontinental passengers who
are currently transferring at Schiphol,


exactly

a lot of upheaval so that a private company can get rich

with little benefit to the rest of UK PLC

tim



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tim... wrote:


"Basil Jet" wrote in message
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On 18/06/2019 20:02, JNugent wrote:
On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48668001

Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second runway
at Gatwick.

...or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail
spur - at Manston.


I think the extra runway is to steal the intercontinental passengers who
are currently transferring at Schiphol,


exactly

a lot of upheaval so that a private company can get rich

with little benefit to the rest of UK PLC


This comes up regularly here. In fact, the expansion of a hub airport means
that it can sustain direct flights to more secondary destinations than if
it only relies on O&D business, which benefits Brits who need to get to
those destinations for business or pleasure. The bigger airport also helps
UK businesses, such as exporters, airlines, air service companies,
caterers, hotels, freight operators, etc. It also makes it a better place
to locate international HQ operations, conference centres, etc. So it
generates wealth and job opportunities for far more than just the airport
owner.


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tim... wrote:


"Basil Jet" wrote in message
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On 18/06/2019 20:02, JNugent wrote:
On 18/06/2019 18:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 18/06/2019 09:52, Recliner wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48668001

Total waste of time. A far better plan would have been a second runway
at Gatwick.

...or a new terminal and a few road improvements - and maybe a rail
spur - at Manston.

I think the extra runway is to steal the intercontinental passengers who
are currently transferring at Schiphol,


exactly

a lot of upheaval so that a private company can get rich

with little benefit to the rest of UK PLC


This comes up regularly here. In fact, the expansion of a hub airport
means
that it can sustain direct flights to more secondary destinations than if
it only relies on O&D business,


Yes we've heard it all before

1) London is such a prime source/destination I don't believe that we need
transfer passengers to sustain such links

2) I would bet you that once this runway is built, next to no new
destinations will open up. All that will happen is that we get twice as
many flights to New York (etc).

a which benefits Brits who need to get to
those destinations for business or pleasure. The bigger airport also helps
UK businesses, such as exporters, airlines, air service companies,
caterers, hotels, freight operators, etc.


Obviously a bigger airport is going to create more jobs at the airport

but spending 15 Billion (was it) on fixed infrastructure anywhere (sensible)
is going to create jobs

and there are parts of the county that need those jobs a dammed sight more
than West London does (which arguably doesn't need any new jobs at all)

It also makes it a better place
to locate international HQ operations, conference centres, etc.


Again

LHR is big enough to do that already

making it even bigger wont bring much here that isn't here already IMHO

tim






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