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On 22/10/2019 12:40, tim... wrote:


think updated BRUTES.


I have no idea what BRUTES is


Plural of BRUTE aka "British Rail Universal Trolley Equipment"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...lley_Equipment


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From:

https://www.ft.com/content/c2b51fd2-f19f-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195?segmentId=080b04f5-af92-ae6f-0513-095d44fb3577

One of the Britain’s busiest railway stations is set to take on a new role
as a freight hub as part of a plan to shuttle goods to central London from
a container port using old passenger trains.


Have I understood this right?

someone is going to take a container of stuff from the port

transfer the contents of it onto a converted passenger carriage individual
"units" at a time, presumably through side door(s)

and then at the other end empty the passenger carriage by individual units
onto little trucks

What size of individual unit is this going to work for?

tim


Thousands of packages but if you want a guide to size think what the
different sizes of packages delivered by
amazon warehouse or carried by the various couriers such as DPD or DHL .
You will often see their interhub lorries on the motorways especially at
night moving such goods , the train to London can be compared with them.

1000’s of small business import items made for them by the box load from
say China all the time but not in the volumes to fill a whole container,
hence the container is shared and unstuffed at the arrival Port or an
Inland container terminal by firms who specialise in it . All that is
different here is that instead of passing onwards by lorry it is going to
be fowarded by train.

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tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
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From:

https://www.ft.com/content/c2b51fd2-f19f-11e9-ad1e-4367d8281195?segmentId=080b04f5-af92-ae6f-0513-095d44fb3577

One of the Britain’s busiest railway stations is set to take on a new role
as a freight hub as part of a plan to shuttle goods to central London from
a container port using old passenger trains.


Have I understood this right?

someone is going to take a container of stuff from the port

transfer the contents of it onto a converted passenger carriage individual
"units" at a time, presumably through side door(s)

and then at the other end empty the passenger carriage by individual units
onto little trucks

What size of individual unit is this going to work for?


Presumably pallets, or the kind of wheeled cage often used to transport
deliveries from road vehicles of whatever size, into town centre shops.

Or perhaps Bellsian autonomous 2' gauge vehicles.


Anna Noyd-Dryver

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The trains, due for delivery in May, are having their seats removed and
being fitted with diesel engines. The engines will generate power when the
train is not running on non-electrified lines, such as the freight sidings ...


Don't they mean that the engines will not generate power when the
train is not running on non-electrified lines?

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On 22/10/2019 18:22, John Levine wrote:
In article ,
Recliner wrote:
The trains, due for delivery in May, are having their seats removed and
being fitted with diesel engines. The engines will generate power when the
train is not running on non-electrified lines, such as the freight sidings ...


Don't they mean that the engines will not generate power when the
train is not running on non-electrified lines?


Perhaps they will generate power when the train is on non-electrified
lines but not running, as opposed to being on non-electrified lines and
coasting along with the momentum gained previously from the wires behind
it. But I don't think that's what they meant.


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