In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?
--
Roland Perry

On 22/10/2019 09:59, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

Wasn't one problem the then lack of electric vans, now not so much of a
problem?

--
Graeme Wall
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In message , at 10:13:59 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:
On 22/10/2019 09:59, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be
distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.
Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of
years ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have
them distributed by electric vans?

Wasn't one problem the then lack of electric vans, now not so much of a
problem?

I didn't ever see an explanation. But the way it was originally
presented sounded very much like someone with a fleet of electric vans
having a solution looking for a problem to solve - which the overnight
inner-City parcel delivery from Euston was a candidate for.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:13:59 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Graeme Wall remarked:
On 22/10/2019 09:59, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be
distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.
Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of
years ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have
them distributed by electric vans?

Wasn't one problem the then lack of electric vans, now not so much of a
problem?

I didn't ever see an explanation. But the way it was originally
presented sounded very much like someone with a fleet of electric vans
having a solution looking for a problem to solve - which the overnight
inner-City parcel delivery from Euston was a candidate for.

I don't think anyone had a fleet of under-used electric vans back then.
Now, they're readily available, and the economic benefit from using them in
the ULEZ will be much greater.

https://www.nissan.co.uk/vehicles/new-vehicles/e-nv200.html

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/17/arrival-time-how-the-white-van-went-green

https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/news/2019/levc-lcv-london-taxi-based-hybrid-delivery-van-revealed/

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT. The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the economics
weren't favourable at the time. Things have obviously changed six years
later.

In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT. The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Things have obviously changed six years later.

Not necessarily. This could be just another concept demonstration.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT. The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Not in most dictionaries.


Things have obviously changed six years later.

Not necessarily. This could be just another concept demonstration.

No it's not. The trains were ordered in January, and the service starts
next May.

In message , at 10:31:41 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT. The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Not in most dictionaries.

You can make almost anything "work" if you throw enough money at it.


Things have obviously changed six years later.

Not necessarily. This could be just another concept demonstration.

No it's not. The trains were ordered in January, and the service starts
next May.

Too far in the future to predict it won't get quietly dropped.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:31:41 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT. The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Not in most dictionaries.

You can make almost anything "work" if you throw enough money at it.

Now you're just arguing for argument's sake.



Things have obviously changed six years later.

Not necessarily. This could be just another concept demonstration.

No it's not. The trains were ordered in January, and the service starts
next May.

Too far in the future to predict it won't get quietly dropped.

Hardly. The train order was placed ten months ago, not 'far in the future'.


My main reservation is that the work is being done by Wabtec (Brush)
Loughborough, which seems to be late with everything.

"Recliner" wrote in message
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:31:41 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:58:34 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 08:49:40 on Tue, 22 Oct
2019, Recliner remarked:

Once the packages arrive at Liverpool Street, they will be
distributed to
their final destinations around the city by electric van or cargo
bikes.

Whatever happened to the very similar sounding scheme a couple of
years
ago to deliver packages to Euston in the small hours, and have them
distributed by electric vans?

That was a one-off concept demonstration, back in June 2014. It was
organised by a consultancy (Intermodality) with Colas Rail and TNT.
The
demo proved that the idea was workable, but my guess is that the
economics
weren't favourable at the time.

Economics is a very big component of "workable".

Not in most dictionaries.

You can make almost anything "work" if you throw enough money at it.

Now you're just arguing for argument's sake.

its' what he does

you knew that already

tim