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October 23rd 19, 09:14 AM
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October 23rd 19, 09:29 AM
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tim... wrote:
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9165661.html Interesting, I wondered how HEx would respond. But it sounds like the cheapest tickets will only be available a long way in advance. |
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October 23rd 19, 10:09 AM
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On 23/10/2019 09:14, tim... wrote:
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9165661.html That was inevitable once they lost their monopoly. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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November 2nd 19, 09:49 PM
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Op 23-10-2019 om 10:29 schreef Recliner:
tim... wrote: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/heathrow-express-ticket-cheap-train-fares-airport-crossrail-travel-a9165661.html Interesting, I wondered how HEx would respond. But it sounds like the cheapest tickets will only be available a long way in advance. I do not understand anything of the prices for this train. 25 pounds 22 pounds 12,50 pounds 5,50 pounds 16,50 pounds 7,50 pounds 6 pounds 5,10 pounds 3,10 pounds "cash fare"? "peak contactless fare"? "off-peak fare"? (I think I understand this, but do not know the off-peak times) How do you explains this to foreigners arriving at Heathrow? |
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November 2nd 19, 10:06 PM
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Heathrow Express slashes fares (so it says!)
Rink wrote:
Op 23-10-2019 om 10:29 schreef Recliner: tim... wrote: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/heathrow-express-ticket-cheap-train-fares-airport-crossrail-travel-a9165661.html Interesting, I wondered how HEx would respond. But it sounds like the cheapest tickets will only be available a long way in advance. I do not understand anything of the prices for this train. 25 pounds 22 pounds 12,50 pounds 5,50 pounds 16,50 pounds 7,50 pounds 6 pounds 5,10 pounds 3,10 pounds "cash fare"? "peak contactless fare"? "off-peak fare"? (I think I understand this, but do not know the off-peak times) How do you explains this to foreigners arriving at Heathrow? I don't suppose the HEx touts in Arrivals do much explaining: they just flog the most expensive tickets they can. The cheaper fares are to attract locals who would otherwise use Crossrail. |
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November 2nd 19, 10:17 PM
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On 02/11/2019 21:49, Rink wrote:
Op 23-10-2019 om 10:29 schreef Recliner: tim... wrote: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/heathrow-express-ticket-cheap-train-fares-airport-crossrail-travel-a9165661.html Interesting, I wondered how HEx would respond. But it sounds like the cheapest tickets will only be available a long way in advance. I do not understand anything of the prices for this train. 25 pounds 22 pounds 12,50 pounds 5,50 pounds 16,50 pounds 7,50 pounds 6 pounds 5,10 pounds 3,10 pounds "cash fare"? "peak contactless fare"? "off-peak fare"? (I think I understand this, but do not know the off-peak times) How do you explains this to foreigners arriving at Heathrow? Just charge them the most expensive fare, as they won't know otherwise (if they've researched it in advance, they'd know). It's a privately owned airport service, competing with taxis not with other forms of scheduled public transport. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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November 3rd 19, 06:28 AM
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Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 02/11/2019 21:49, Rink wrote: Op 23-10-2019 om 10:29 schreef Recliner: tim... wrote: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/heathrow-express-ticket-cheap-train-fares-airport-crossrail-travel-a9165661.html Interesting, I wondered how HEx would respond. But it sounds like the cheapest tickets will only be available a long way in advance. I do not understand anything of the prices for this train. 25 pounds 22 pounds 12,50 pounds 5,50 pounds 16,50 pounds 7,50 pounds 6 pounds 5,10 pounds 3,10 pounds "cash fare"? "peak contactless fare"? "off-peak fare"? (I think I understand this, but do not know the off-peak times) How do you explains this to foreigners arriving at Heathrow? Just charge them the most expensive fare, as they won't know otherwise (if they've researched it in advance, they'd know). It's a privately owned airport service, competing with taxis not with other forms of scheduled public transport. That's no longer the case when Crossrail is fully open. Any local, and most visitors, will be better off using Crossrail: quicker, fewer changes, hgher frequency, cheaper. Only people travelling from Paddington itself to T5 might have a slightly faster journey using HEx; everyone else will have a more convenient journey on Crossrail. |
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November 3rd 19, 08:03 AM
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In message , at 06:28:31 on Sun, 3 Nov 2019,
Recliner remarked: Arthur Figgis wrote: On 02/11/2019 21:49, Rink wrote: Op 23-10-2019 om 10:29 schreef Recliner: tim... wrote: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...heathrow-expre ss-ticket-cheap-train-fares-airport-crossrail-travel-a9165661.html Interesting, I wondered how HEx would respond. But it sounds like the cheapest tickets will only be available a long way in advance. I do not understand anything of the prices for this train. 25 pounds 22 pounds 12,50 pounds 5,50 pounds 16,50 pounds 7,50 pounds 6 pounds 5,10 pounds 3,10 pounds "cash fare"? "peak contactless fare"? "off-peak fare"? (I think I understand this, but do not know the off-peak times) How do you explains this to foreigners arriving at Heathrow? Just charge them the most expensive fare, as they won't know otherwise (if they've researched it in advance, they'd know). It's a privately owned airport service, competing with taxis not with other forms of scheduled public transport. That's no longer the case when Crossrail is fully open. Any local, and most visitors, will be better off using Crossrail: quicker, fewer changes, hgher frequency, cheaper. Only people travelling from Paddington itself to T5 might have a slightly faster journey using HEx; everyone else will have a more convenient journey on Crossrail. The market is more segmented than you suggest. Visitors will be conditioned to seek out the "Airport Express" service, which they know will shield them from the complexities of the local commuter services. (Even though sometimes, like Stansted Express, the operational difference is wafer thin) Clearly, many of the people using HEx today aren't heading for hotels or business meetings (or even onward rail transport) in the Paddington area, so they'll continue to use Paddington as the railhead, and let's face it the facilities for travellers there are far better than Tottenham Court Crossrail. Similarly, on the way back getting to Paddington is "safety" as it's in effect an airport annex. If using Crossrail, people won't feel completely comfortable until they've got to the Terminal. Bearing in mind, always, that their audience is people who would otherwise have got a taxi from the airport, not those adventurous enough to take the tube or Heathrow Connect. -- Roland Perry |
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November 3rd 19, 05:53 PM
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 06:28:31 on Sun, 3 Nov 2019, Recliner remarked: Arthur Figgis wrote: On 02/11/2019 21:49, Rink wrote: Op 23-10-2019 om 10:29 schreef Recliner: tim... wrote: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...heathrow-expre ss-ticket-cheap-train-fares-airport-crossrail-travel-a9165661.html Interesting, I wondered how HEx would respond. But it sounds like the cheapest tickets will only be available a long way in advance. I do not understand anything of the prices for this train. 25 pounds 22 pounds 12,50 pounds 5,50 pounds 16,50 pounds 7,50 pounds 6 pounds 5,10 pounds 3,10 pounds "cash fare"? "peak contactless fare"? "off-peak fare"? (I think I understand this, but do not know the off-peak times) How do you explains this to foreigners arriving at Heathrow? Just charge them the most expensive fare, as they won't know otherwise (if they've researched it in advance, they'd know). It's a privately owned airport service, competing with taxis not with other forms of scheduled public transport. That's no longer the case when Crossrail is fully open. Any local, and most visitors, will be better off using Crossrail: quicker, fewer changes, hgher frequency, cheaper. Only people travelling from Paddington itself to T5 might have a slightly faster journey using HEx; everyone else will have a more convenient journey on Crossrail. The market is more segmented than you suggest. Visitors will be conditioned to seek out the "Airport Express" service, which they know will shield them from the complexities of the local commuter services. (Even though sometimes, like Stansted Express, the operational difference is wafer thin) Clearly, many of the people using HEx today aren't heading for hotels or business meetings (or even onward rail transport) in the Paddington area, so they'll continue to use Paddington as the railhead, and let's face it the facilities for travellers there are far better than Tottenham Court Crossrail. Similarly, on the way back getting to Paddington is "safety" as it's in effect an airport annex. If using Crossrail, people won't feel completely comfortable until they've got to the Terminal. Bearing in mind, always, that their audience is people who would otherwise have got a taxi from the airport, not those adventurous enough to take the tube or Heathrow Connect. The fact that they're suddenly providing all these new discounted options proves that HEx lacks your deep insights into airport express services. |
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November 3rd 19, 08:01 PM
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In message , at 17:53:50 on Sun, 3 Nov 2019,
Recliner remarked: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...heathrow-expre ss-ticket-cheap-train-fares-airport-crossrail-travel-a9165661.html Interesting, I wondered how HEx would respond. But it sounds like the cheapest tickets will only be available a long way in advance. I do not understand anything of the prices for this train. 25 pounds 22 pounds 12,50 pounds 5,50 pounds 16,50 pounds 7,50 pounds 6 pounds 5,10 pounds 3,10 pounds "cash fare"? "peak contactless fare"? "off-peak fare"? (I think I understand this, but do not know the off-peak times) How do you explains this to foreigners arriving at Heathrow? Just charge them the most expensive fare, as they won't know otherwise (if they've researched it in advance, they'd know). It's a privately owned airport service, competing with taxis not with other forms of scheduled public transport. That's no longer the case when Crossrail is fully open. Any local, and most visitors, will be better off using Crossrail: quicker, fewer changes, hgher frequency, cheaper. Only people travelling from Paddington itself to T5 might have a slightly faster journey using HEx; everyone else will have a more convenient journey on Crossrail. The market is more segmented than you suggest. Visitors will be conditioned to seek out the "Airport Express" service, which they know will shield them from the complexities of the local commuter services. (Even though sometimes, like Stansted Express, the operational difference is wafer thin) Clearly, many of the people using HEx today aren't heading for hotels or business meetings (or even onward rail transport) in the Paddington area, so they'll continue to use Paddington as the railhead, and let's face it the facilities for travellers there are far better than Tottenham Court Crossrail. Similarly, on the way back getting to Paddington is "safety" as it's in effect an airport annex. If using Crossrail, people won't feel completely comfortable until they've got to the Terminal. Bearing in mind, always, that their audience is people who would otherwise have got a taxi from the airport, not those adventurous enough to take the tube or Heathrow Connect. The fact that they're suddenly providing all these new discounted options proves that HEx lacks your deep insights into airport express services. On the contrary, news of these price cuts are unlikely to make their way through to their main target market, who will continue to pay the full price. Meanwhile, in the UK some gullible people might be persuaded that HEx isn't as expensive (as a commuter service, which isn't its target market) after all. -- Roland Perry |
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