On 25 Nov 2019 00:17:58 GMT, Marland
wrote:

Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
On 24 Nov 2019 13:51:40 GMT, Marland
wrote:


Boltar may be a natural at vehicle handling which not all people are so the
physical driving was ticked off on the first day, the rest were spent
learning what the ringing sound was as the bus approached a stop.

Not in London then where you get ****s ringing the bell 0.1sec after
the bus has left the previous stop.


Is there some approved timescale for omnibus campanology of which I'm
somehow unaware?



Although I haven’t used one for some years now Southampton passengers
seemed to be very reluctant to use the bell to the extent that visitors to
the City sometimes remarked about it.
The technique seemed to be that someone wishing to alight at the next stop
would get up from their seat
and just lurk a few feet behind the driver who took that as the signal they
wished to get off .
I rang the bell once and the effect wasn’t that much different to that
created by trying to start a conversation on the London Underground.

Any other places where the use of the Bell was similarly disdained.

I'm not sure if the buses in Lanarkshire even had bells, I never heard
one.

On 26/11/2019 22:40, wrote:
On 25 Nov 2019 00:17:58 GMT, Marland
wrote:

Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
On 24 Nov 2019 13:51:40 GMT, Marland
wrote:


Boltar may be a natural at vehicle handling which not all people are so the
physical driving was ticked off on the first day, the rest were spent
learning what the ringing sound was as the bus approached a stop.

Not in London then where you get ****s ringing the bell 0.1sec after
the bus has left the previous stop.


Is there some approved timescale for omnibus campanology of which I'm
somehow unaware?



Although I haven’t used one for some years now Southampton passengers
seemed to be very reluctant to use the bell to the extent that visitors to
the City sometimes remarked about it.
The technique seemed to be that someone wishing to alight at the next stop
would get up from their seat
and just lurk a few feet behind the driver who took that as the signal they
wished to get off .
I rang the bell once and the effect wasn’t that much different to that
created by trying to start a conversation on the London Underground.

Any other places where the use of the Bell was similarly disdained.

I'm not sure if the buses in Lanarkshire even had bells, I never heard
one.

I have never understood why people are so reluctant to ring the bell. Do
they want to get off the bus, or not..? In my driving days I was plagued
by people who would lurk somewhere behind the cab and expect me to
"sense" they were there.

I vividly remember one guy, quite well dressed in a business suit and
carrying a briefcase, who, when I had missed the stop that he'd wanted
(not deliberately by any means, I assure you) got very vocal and started
questioning my parentage in very colourful language.

I said to him very politely, why didn't you ring the bell..? He replied
that he never did. I said that if he didn't, it was quite possible that
he might miss his stop.

He then stamped his foot like a petulant 5 year old and shouted at the
top of his voice, making the entire bus sit up and take notice,

"I *WON'T* ring the bell..!"

I just said "Ok, I won't stop the bus" to which he didn't say a word and
got off (at the next stop 100 yards down the road) very quietly.



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On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:24:10 +0000, MissRiaElaine
wrote:

On 26/11/2019 22:40, wrote:
On 25 Nov 2019 00:17:58 GMT, Marland
wrote:

Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
Charles Ellson wrote:
On 24 Nov 2019 13:51:40 GMT, Marland
wrote:


Boltar may be a natural at vehicle handling which not all people are so the
physical driving was ticked off on the first day, the rest were spent
learning what the ringing sound was as the bus approached a stop.

Not in London then where you get ****s ringing the bell 0.1sec after
the bus has left the previous stop.


Is there some approved timescale for omnibus campanology of which I'm
somehow unaware?



Although I haven’t used one for some years now Southampton passengers
seemed to be very reluctant to use the bell to the extent that visitors to
the City sometimes remarked about it.
The technique seemed to be that someone wishing to alight at the next stop
would get up from their seat
and just lurk a few feet behind the driver who took that as the signal they
wished to get off .
I rang the bell once and the effect wasn’t that much different to that
created by trying to start a conversation on the London Underground.

Any other places where the use of the Bell was similarly disdained.

I'm not sure if the buses in Lanarkshire even had bells, I never heard
one.

I have never understood why people are so reluctant to ring the bell. Do
they want to get off the bus, or not..? In my driving days I was plagued
by people who would lurk somewhere behind the cab and expect me to
"sense" they were there.

IME that often used to be standard practice in more rural parts where
stops were miles apart and all effectively compulsory (in LT terms).
ISTR some country buses years ago didn't have a bell to ring anyway.

I vividly remember one guy, quite well dressed in a business suit and
carrying a briefcase, who, when I had missed the stop that he'd wanted
(not deliberately by any means, I assure you) got very vocal and started
questioning my parentage in very colourful language.

I said to him very politely, why didn't you ring the bell..? He replied
that he never did. I said that if he didn't, it was quite possible that
he might miss his stop.

He then stamped his foot like a petulant 5 year old and shouted at the
top of his voice, making the entire bus sit up and take notice,

"I *WON'T* ring the bell..!"

I just said "Ok, I won't stop the bus" to which he didn't say a word and
got off (at the next stop 100 yards down the road) very quietly.

On 27/11/2019 17:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:

I have never understood why people are so reluctant to ring the bell. Do
they want to get off the bus, or not..? In my driving days I was plagued
by people who would lurk somewhere behind the cab and expect me to
"sense" they were there.

I vividly remember one guy, quite well dressed in a business suit and
carrying a briefcase, who, when I had missed the stop that he'd wanted
(not deliberately by any means, I assure you) got very vocal and started
questioning my parentage in very colourful language.

I said to him very politely, why didn't you ring the bell..? He replied
that he never did. I said that if he didn't, it was quite possible that
he might miss his stop.

He then stamped his foot like a petulant 5 year old and shouted at the
top of his voice, making the entire bus sit up and take notice,

"I *WON'T* ring the bell..!"

I just said "Ok, I won't stop the bus" to which he didn't say a word and
got off (at the next stop 100 yards down the road) very quietly.


I find this very hard to believe.

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Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to
Saint Etienne - 1991 - Foxbase Alpha

Basil Jet wrote:
On 27/11/2019 17:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:

I have never understood why people are so reluctant to ring the bell. Do
they want to get off the bus, or not..? In my driving days I was plagued
by people who would lurk somewhere behind the cab and expect me to
"sense" they were there.

I vividly remember one guy, quite well dressed in a business suit and
carrying a briefcase, who, when I had missed the stop that he'd wanted
(not deliberately by any means, I assure you) got very vocal and started
questioning my parentage in very colourful language.

I said to him very politely, why didn't you ring the bell..? He replied
that he never did. I said that if he didn't, it was quite possible that
he might miss his stop.

He then stamped his foot like a petulant 5 year old and shouted at the
top of his voice, making the entire bus sit up and take notice,

"I *WON'T* ring the bell..!"

I just said "Ok, I won't stop the bus" to which he didn't say a word and
got off (at the next stop 100 yards down the road) very quietly.


I find this very hard to believe.


Are you suggesting something like “Pull the other one it’s got Bells on�.


GH

Basil Jet wrote:
On 27/11/2019 17:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:

I have never understood why people are so reluctant to ring the bell. Do
they want to get off the bus, or not..? In my driving days I was plagued
by people who would lurk somewhere behind the cab and expect me to
"sense" they were there.

I vividly remember one guy, quite well dressed in a business suit and
carrying a briefcase, who, when I had missed the stop that he'd wanted
(not deliberately by any means, I assure you) got very vocal and started
questioning my parentage in very colourful language.

I said to him very politely, why didn't you ring the bell..? He replied
that he never did. I said that if he didn't, it was quite possible that
he might miss his stop.

He then stamped his foot like a petulant 5 year old and shouted at the
top of his voice, making the entire bus sit up and take notice,

"I *WON'T* ring the bell..!"

I just said "Ok, I won't stop the bus" to which he didn't say a word and
got off (at the next stop 100 yards down the road) very quietly.


I find this very hard to believe.


I like to read the tales of customer idiocy on https://notalwaysright.com
and as a result I find the tale about very easy to believe


Anna Noyd-Dryver

On 27/11/2019 21:15, Basil Jet wrote:
On 27/11/2019 17:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:

I have never understood why people are so reluctant to ring the bell.
Do they want to get off the bus, or not..? In my driving days I was
plagued by people who would lurk somewhere behind the cab and expect
me to "sense" they were there.

I vividly remember one guy, quite well dressed in a business suit and
carrying a briefcase, who, when I had missed the stop that he'd wanted
(not deliberately by any means, I assure you) got very vocal and
started questioning my parentage in very colourful language.

I said to him very politely, why didn't you ring the bell..? He
replied that he never did. I said that if he didn't, it was quite
possible that he might miss his stop.

He then stamped his foot like a petulant 5 year old and shouted at the
top of his voice, making the entire bus sit up and take notice,

"I *WON'T* ring the bell..!"

I just said "Ok, I won't stop the bus" to which he didn't say a word
and got off (at the next stop 100 yards down the road) very quietly.


I find this very hard to believe.

Believe me (or not), it happened. You tend not to forget such things.


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Ria in Aberdeen

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On 27/11/2019 23:30, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 27/11/2019 21:15, Basil Jet wrote:
On 27/11/2019 17:24, MissRiaElaine wrote:

I have never understood why people are so reluctant to ring the bell.
Do they want to get off the bus, or not..? In my driving days I was
plagued by people who would lurk somewhere behind the cab and expect
me to "sense" they were there.

I vividly remember one guy, quite well dressed in a business suit and
carrying a briefcase, who, when I had missed the stop that he'd
wanted (not deliberately by any means, I assure you) got very vocal
and started questioning my parentage in very colourful language.

I said to him very politely, why didn't you ring the bell..? He
replied that he never did. I said that if he didn't, it was quite
possible that he might miss his stop.

He then stamped his foot like a petulant 5 year old and shouted at
the top of his voice, making the entire bus sit up and take notice,

"I *WON'T* ring the bell..!"

I just said "Ok, I won't stop the bus" to which he didn't say a word
and got off (at the next stop 100 yards down the road) very quietly.


I find this very hard to believe.

Believe me (or not), it happened. You tend not to forget such things.


As a bus passenger, I notice numerous occasions when people at bus stops
(serving multiple routes) stick their arms out - after the front of the
bus has passed the stop -- and then look puzzled / annoyed when the bus
fails to stop. They must think that bus drivers are mindreaders...

On 28/11/2019 19:16, Bevan Price wrote:

As a bus passenger, I notice numerous occasions when people at bus stops
(serving multiple routes) stick their arms out - after the front of the
bus has passed the stop -- and then look puzzled / annoyed when the bus
fails to stop. They must think that bus drivers are mindreaders...

These passengers were probably queueing behind someone else and didn't
realise that the other person didn't want this bus until it was too
late. The requirement that bus passengers should queue and the
requirement that they should hail the buses conflict, unless every bus
calling at the stop is going to the same places.

--
Basil Jet recently enjoyed listening to
Teleman - 2014 - Breakfast

On 28/11/2019 19:57, Basil Jet wrote:
On 28/11/2019 19:16, Bevan Price wrote:

As a bus passenger, I notice numerous occasions when people at bus
stops (serving multiple routes) stick their arms out - after the front
of the bus has passed the stop -- and then look puzzled / annoyed when
the bus fails to stop. They must think that bus drivers are
mindreaders...

These passengers were probably queueing behind someone else and didn't
realise that the other person didn't want this bus until it was too
late. The requirement that bus passengers should queue and the
requirement that they should hail the buses conflict, unless every bus
calling at the stop is going to the same places.

Nobody queues around here. They just stand around all over the place,
blocking the pavement, smoking or fiddling with their phones, then when
a bus arrives they all try and get on at the same time with no regard to
who was there first and never mind people getting off (we don't have
separate exit doors here, unlike London. Very few places do, never
understood why).


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Ria in Aberdeen

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