In message , at 07:56:09 on Tue, 9 Jun 2020,
tim... remarked:


"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote in message news:yzjqU4DVP
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In article , Roland Perry
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The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S
today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage.

I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than
simply going
back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange.

In my case (and I suspect Clive's) the shop is 10 miles away and has no
parking. So you have to queue to get into the council car park then go
round and up and round and up and round and up to find a space. Walk
five minutes to the store which has a queue at Customer Services, then
walk back and *pay*, then go round and down and round and down and round
and down and queue to exit. Then drive 10 miles home.

Not quite 10 miles: 9.3 to Lion Yard or 7.4 to Park Street (which is a
longer walk). In each case, about 3 quid for parking. Or 25 minutes each
way on a bus for I forget what fare. But you've got the basics right.


25 minutes for a 10 mile bus journey is pretty good going

are there no stops on the way

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/routes/east/5/fenstanton-
cambridge/xeeo005.i
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Roland Perry

On 09/06/2020 07:54, tim... wrote:


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On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:46:39 +0100
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On 08/06/2020 08:45, wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:19:01 +0100
"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote:
In article , writes
Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in
sizes
9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two.

On what planet?

The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to
M&S
today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the
postage.

I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than
simply
going
back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange.


In my case it's a 60 minute round trip back to the shop or a 30 minute
round trip to the Post Office.

Where do you live, the isle of skye?

at 3 miles per hour walking pace that us decrepit oldies manage

that 0.75 miles each way

That would be about right.

The 60 minute round trip to the shops included walking to and from the
railway station at each end but excludes waiting time for the next train.

I'm not a person who jumps in my car at every opportunity as I regard it
a mode of travel of almost last resort, just behind buses which are a
last resort.

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 07:53:22 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
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On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:05:21 +0100
"tim..." wrote:
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:19:01 +0100
"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote:
In article , writes
Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in
sizes
9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two.

On what planet?

The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S
today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage.

I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply
going
back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange.

It's been explained to you

not everyone has an M&S on the corner

HTH

Not everyone has a post office or a chavmart on the corner either.

I did wonder if you were going to take "on the corner" literally and should
use a different term, but decided that even you weren't that stupid

Google colloquialism you pillock.

On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 07:51:07 +0100, "tim..."
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"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
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"Sam Wilson" wrote in message
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tim... wrote:


"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:04:10 +0100, "tim..."
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"Sam Wilson" wrote in message
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Charles Ellson wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather"
wrote:

In article , Charles
Ellson
writes
But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick
or
Harry
to force their decisions on us.

In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to
do.

FSVO "We".

We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes
is
part of the system.

At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them.

They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the
process
of
electing them. (Alas!)

you had the democratic opportunity to change that

and democracy won

HTH

Democracy is a repeating process.

but not in a way where there are demands for a neverendum, so that they
eventually win from voter fatigue

Do you have some kind of legal or even scholarly reference for that
assertion?

try this as just one example

https://capx.co/a-fate-worse-than-qu...ds-neverendum/


Azeem Ibrahim, Executive Chairman of the Scotland Institute, a "think
tank" founded by an unholy LAB-LIB-CON alliance of Alistair Darling,
Jo Swinson and Jackson Carlaw.

You simply asked me for proof that the term was in (FSVO) general usage

It isn't (as your FSVO implies). Users (excluding media repetition)
are almost exclusively of a particular political bent and
representative of a sub-group rather than any party.

and not something I had invented

You are not to blame.

(at least that's how I interpreted your PP)

I've given you that

If you don't agree with the analysis, credibly refute it. Shooting the
messenger is never a valid debating position.

Nothing wrong with the messenger. Just adding info re the
originator(s) of the word.

HTH

In article , tim...
writes
Not quite 10 miles: 9.3 to Lion Yard or 7.4 to Park Street (which is a
longer walk). In each case, about 3 quid for parking. Or 25 minutes each
way on a bus for I forget what fare. But you've got the basics right.

25 minutes for a 10 mile bus journey is pretty good going

The 10 miles was a long way round because the council don't like people
being able to drive through the city.

The bus is more like 7 miles. I also see that the time has been slowed
to 37 minutes because they've merged two routes. So perhaps closer to 10
miles after all.

are there no stops on the way

Plenty, especially with the combined routes. Looks like 27 rather than
the usual 17 or 18. Though experience says the bus won't stop at half of
them because nobody wants to get on or off.

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Clive D.W. Feather