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June 4th 20, 07:46 PM
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"Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 18:54:49 +0100, wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote: I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport from 15 June. Where..? Just London or nationwide..? If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose. Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I suspect the other countries will follow their lead. They will need to teach some people how to wear them. I have seen plenty walking around with the top of their mask below their nostrils. It doesn't need to be a mask, just a face covering if it weren't so hot I'd be covering my face with a scarf |
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#13
June 4th 20, 09:15 PM
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tim... wrote:
"Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 18:54:49 +0100, wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote: I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport from 15 June. Where..? Just London or nationwide..? If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose. Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I suspect the other countries will follow their lead. They will need to teach some people how to wear them. I have seen plenty walking around with the top of their mask below their nostrils. It doesn't need to be a mask, just a face covering if it weren't so hot I'd be covering my face with a scarf Did you see the Ukrainian shop CCTV video of a woman shopper coming up with an ingenious solution to the demand that she wear face covering to be served? And, no, she didn't have a scarf. |
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#14
June 4th 20, 10:22 PM
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On 04/06/2020 19:46, tim... wrote:
"Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 18:54:49 +0100, wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote: I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport from 15 June. Where..? Just London or nationwide..? If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose. Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I suspect the other countries will follow their lead. They will need to teach some people how to wear them. I have seen plenty walking around with the top of their mask below their nostrils. It doesn't need to be a mask, just a face covering I cannot properly relate to someone whose face I cannot clearly see*. This is no joke, nor am I making it up. If I can't see your face, it makes me extremely uneasy. *Before anyone jumps on it, this does not apply to telephone conversations, where I do not expect to be able to see someone's face. If I am meeting them in person, then I do. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
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#15
June 4th 20, 11:35 PM
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On 04/06/2020 18:54, wrote:
On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote: I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport from 15 June. Where..? Just London or nationwide..? If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose. Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I suspect the other countries will follow their lead. Haven't you got those names in the wrong order ? To me, it sometimes seems as if "C" pulls the strings and "B" opens his mouth. |
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#16
June 4th 20, 11:56 PM
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Bevan Price wrote:
On 04/06/2020 18:54, wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote: I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport from 15 June. Where..? Just London or nationwide..? If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose. Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I suspect the other countries will follow their lead. Haven't you got those names in the wrong order ? To me, it sometimes seems as if "C" pulls the strings and "B" opens his mouth. Yup, which is why Cummings was indispensable in the short term. But Boris now knows he needs a new head for the Downing Street operation. It looks like Simon Case may be that person. Cummings may keep Boris's ear on policy matters, perhaps in the employ of a think tank. Boris has been a journo for most of his working life, so he probably does understand the damage that Cummings' continuing presence does. |
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#17
June 5th 20, 12:05 AM
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On 04/06/2020 23:35, Bevan Price wrote:
On 04/06/2020 18:54, wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote: I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport from 15 June. Where..? Just London or nationwide..? If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose. Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I suspect the other countries will follow their lead. Haven't you got those names in the wrong order ? To me, it sometimes seems as if "C" pulls the strings and "B" opens his mouth. Since that was debatable I decided to put the nominal leader first. |
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#18
June 5th 20, 12:21 AM
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On 04/06/2020 23:35, Bevan Price wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:54, wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote: I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport from 15 June. Where..? Just London or nationwide..? If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose. Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I suspect the other countries will follow their lead. Haven't you got those names in the wrong order ? To me, it sometimes seems as if "C" pulls the strings and "B" opens his mouth. Since that was debatable I decided to put the nominal leader first. I'm not sure who now has the role of leaking to the press, but it's been reported that Boris has taken control, and effectively put Cummings on a final warning. The Rose Garden event was supposed to be when he cleared things up, but he blew it. Cummings is now on borrowed time, but Boris would lose too much face if he fired him before the summer break. |
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#19
June 5th 20, 09:24 AM
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On 05/06/2020 00:21, Recliner wrote:
wrote: On 04/06/2020 23:35, Bevan Price wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:54, wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote: I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport from 15 June. Where..? Just London or nationwide..? If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose. Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I suspect the other countries will follow their lead. Haven't you got those names in the wrong order ? To me, it sometimes seems as if "C" pulls the strings and "B" opens his mouth. Since that was debatable I decided to put the nominal leader first. I'm not sure who now has the role of leaking to the press, but it's been reported that Boris has taken control, and effectively put Cummings on a final warning. The Rose Garden event was supposed to be when he cleared things up, but he blew it. Cummings is now on borrowed time, but Boris would lose too much face if he fired him before the summer break. I have no time for these petty political games and never have done. Johnson has little face left as he's shown himself to be so feeble and not doing the correct thing so he would actually gain more face by being strong and getting rid of him now rather than later. Has he resigned or been sacked from SAGE yet? I've not heard anything about that. |
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#20
June 5th 20, 09:48 AM
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On 05/06/2020 00:21, Recliner wrote: wrote: On 04/06/2020 23:35, Bevan Price wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:54, wrote: On 04/06/2020 18:31, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 04/06/2020 17:42, wrote: I also just heard that masks will be mandatory on all public transport from 15 June. Where..? Just London or nationwide..? If they try it here that's our custom they'll lose. Johnson and Cummings only run England so it's only there so far but I suspect the other countries will follow their lead. Haven't you got those names in the wrong order ? To me, it sometimes seems as if "C" pulls the strings and "B" opens his mouth. Since that was debatable I decided to put the nominal leader first. I'm not sure who now has the role of leaking to the press, but it's been reported that Boris has taken control, and effectively put Cummings on a final warning. The Rose Garden event was supposed to be when he cleared things up, but he blew it. Cummings is now on borrowed time, but Boris would lose too much face if he fired him before the summer break. I have no time for these petty political games and never have done. Johnson has little face left as he's shown himself to be so feeble and not doing the correct thing so he would actually gain more face by being strong and getting rid of him now rather than later. He should have got rid of him immediately. Both of them should have realised that his continuing official presence was damaging to the PM and the government. But, having backed him so strongly, Boris now needs to wait before getting rid of him; to do so too soon would just compound the damage. My guess is that he'll be gone by September. I suspect that Cummings isn't much enjoying the job any more. He's lost a lot of his power, is viewed as a comic figure rather than one of the great intellects of his day, is being harassed by the press (which won't stop until he's gone), and his family are also under scrutiny (eg, his father's apparently illegal conversion of a swimming pool into a house, his wife's porkies in the Spectator). She was all set to be the next editor of the magazine, but that now looks unlikely — not that telling porkies disqualifies one from that job, as a former editor could attest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson#The_Spectator_and_MP_for_Henley:_199 9–2008 So Cummings will probably be happy to depart, once he knows that there won't be an extension to the transition period. Has he resigned or been sacked from SAGE yet? I've not heard anything about that. He was never officially a member of SAGE, not that the government has been open about either its membership or its advice. He just invited himself to the (presumably virtual) meetings. We don't know if he was there just to listen, or to try and influence the advice SAGE delivered to the government. I have to suspect the latter. |
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