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Gary Jenkins wrote:

During the hot spell last week the announcer at Westminster Tube was
advising passengers to carry bottled water with them.

As far as I know the tube has been operating for over 100 yeras
without any seriious incidents of dehydrated passengers. Have the
operators now lost confidenc in their ability to get people to their
destination within a reasonable time?


Might be a good idea if they put vending machins selling bottled water
on the tube rather than the endless chocolate and sugary fizzy drink.




Might be an even better idea if they had some free water fountains on each
platform.


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JB wrote:

Might be an even better idea if they had some free water fountains on each
platform.

Ah, you mean urinals? ;-) (They will most likely be used as such......)

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Might be an even better idea if they had some free water fountains on each
platform.


It wouldn't be allowed by H&S. Water would have to be in sealed containers.


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On Wed, 26 May 2004 12:05:28 +0100, Jack Taylor wrote:

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Might be an even better idea if they had some free water fountains on each
platform.


It wouldn't be allowed by H&S.


Why not? One of the things I like about The US is in most public
places their will be a water fountain. If they can handle it why
can't we?

Water would have to be in sealed containers.


Why is it different from the tap in the corner of my office?

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J.B.:
Might be an even better idea if they had some free water fountains on each
platform.


Jack Taylor:
It wouldn't be allowed by H&S.


David Walters:
Why not? One of the things I like about The US is in most public
places [there] will be a water fountain.


True, but I can't think of any subway systems that have them on the
platforms. Some cities prohibit eating and drinking on subway trains.

There are two classes of problem. The first is that a drinking fountains
aren't usually placed in environments frequented by those who would
vandalize them, assault others with a spray of water, and so on. Okay,
maybe "frequented" is too strong, but you know what I mean.

Second is the possibility of the fountain causing an accident. If there
is water then it will be spilled sometime, and someone will slip, fall
the wrong way, and (choose the one you care more about) suffer a serious
injury and/or file a lawsuit. Yeah, this is possible anyway where the
platforms are exposed to rainwater, but water fountains would certainly
increase the probability.

In addition, one could imagine the case where a defective fountain
produced a continuous stream of water that flowed down to track level
and, despite the third and fourth rails being raised on insulators,
managed to contact something live. It seems unlikely to me that this
presents a serious risk, but I could be wrong, and to safety Nazis,
"unlikely a serious risk" is insufficient anyway.

Besides all that, someone would have to pay for it. And that includes
drainpipes as well as a water supply.
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David Walters wrote in message . ..

Might be an even better idea if they had some free water fountains on each
platform.


It wouldn't be allowed by H&S.


Why not? One of the things I like about The US is in most public
places their will be a water fountain. If they can handle it why
can't we?


Don't you remember that Quincy episode where someone dumped some
bad food into a sink and it got siphoned unnoticed into the
water fountains, causing botulism ?

Having seen the inside of some LUL washrooms, I wouldn't like to
drink from a tap served by the same supply.

Also, a drinking fountain would inevitably get gobbed in, ****ed
in, or be treated as an ashtray or garbage receptacle. Presumably
the Americans don't suffer from this sort of thing.


Water would have to be in sealed containers.


Why is it different from the tap in the corner of my office?


Your office is in a controled environment, and doesn't have
unknown unwashed people visiting it for 21h a day.

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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 at 11:39:49, Richard M Willis
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Also, a drinking fountain would inevitably get gobbed in, ****ed
in, or be treated as an ashtray or garbage receptacle. Presumably
the Americans don't suffer from this sort of thing.

But surely the whole point of water fountains is that they produce a
stream which arches up, so your mouth doesn't have to go anywhere near
the actual outlet. And, from what I remember of the US, the fountains
were too high up to be peed into, unless you were a contortionist!

I remember as a child being able to use the drinking-fountains in Hyde
Park; you can't now....
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Annabel Smyth wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 at 11:39:49, Richard M Willis
wrote:

Also, a drinking fountain would inevitably get gobbed in, ****ed
in, or be treated as an ashtray or garbage receptacle. Presumably
the Americans don't suffer from this sort of thing.

But surely the whole point of water fountains is that they produce a
stream which arches up, so your mouth doesn't have to go anywhere
near the actual outlet. And, from what I remember of the US, the
fountains were too high up to be peed into, unless you were a
contortionist!


That's a gender-specific comment. Remember that some of us can do the
"stream which arches up" bit ourselves.
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 at 13:58:42, Richard J.
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Annabel Smyth wrote:


But surely the whole point of water fountains is that they produce a
stream which arches up, so your mouth doesn't have to go anywhere
near the actual outlet. And, from what I remember of the US, the
fountains were too high up to be peed into, unless you were a
contortionist!


That's a gender-specific comment. Remember that some of us can do the
"stream which arches up" bit ourselves.
:-)

True, but I would have thought that, unless one were *very* drunk, one
would try not to draw attention to oneself peeing in a public place....
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"JB" wrote in message
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Might be an even better idea if they had some free water fountains on

each
platform.


It wouldn't be allowed by H&S. Water would have to be in sealed

containers.

Is that motivated purely by H&S considerations or (being cynical) could it
be that bottled water can be charged for (and therefore someone can make a
profit out of those sales) whereas a water fountain cannot easily be made
profitable?

What is the perceived hazard from having water coming out of a tap, the way
it has done for many decades and the way that it still does in private
houses? As long as the water comes from the rising main and not from a
storage tank, I don't see what the problem is.




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