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Old June 10th 04, 02:40 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Hi There

A few weks ago, I took a different route into work as I had missed the
overland train.

Hence I got onto the tube at a Zone 3 station and got out at a Zone 2
station on a 2 to 3 Travelcard. But I'd forgotten that I needed a Zone
1 extension as I was passing through Zone 1.

Anyway, Revenue Prosecutions were on the other end - truly I wasnt
thinking clearly at the time as I should have just gone up to them,
explained Id forgotten to get an extension etc.

However, I vokuntarily gave my ticket for checking and then stupidly
panicked and lied when asked where I had got on.

Obviously this is enough for the inspector to feel that I had tried to
defraud LU? However, she did not give me much of a chance to explain!

One of her questions was 'do you have any money on you'? I said yes a
bit how much do you want for the penalty fare etc? she said 'can you
just answer the question please'?

All in all very intimidation. I have had a letter from LU, explaining
they may take legal action and asking me for any comment.

I explained the circumstances, apologised, asked if we could avoid
going to court, accepted responsiblity and requested they tell me how
much the fine will be and I will send them a cheque.

Any idea how they normally behave in these circumstances?

Any help much appreciated

Many thanks

Mumtaz
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Old June 10th 04, 08:48 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Hmmmm,

Telling the inspector that you got on at a different station was not a good
idea, I assume they then checked the ticket and found otherwise.

It is not LUL you have to persuade it will be the Magistrates Court if they
prosecute you.

The chances are you will either be:

1) Given a warning
2) Have a private prosecution (by LUL) in the Magistrates Court
3) Passed to the BTP (British Transport Police) for a crown prosecution.


"Monnie" wrote in message
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Hi There

A few weks ago, I took a different route into work as I had missed the
overland train.

Hence I got onto the tube at a Zone 3 station and got out at a Zone 2
station on a 2 to 3 Travelcard. But I'd forgotten that I needed a Zone
1 extension as I was passing through Zone 1.

Anyway, Revenue Prosecutions were on the other end - truly I wasnt
thinking clearly at the time as I should have just gone up to them,
explained Id forgotten to get an extension etc.

However, I vokuntarily gave my ticket for checking and then stupidly
panicked and lied when asked where I had got on.

Obviously this is enough for the inspector to feel that I had tried to
defraud LU? However, she did not give me much of a chance to explain!

One of her questions was 'do you have any money on you'? I said yes a
bit how much do you want for the penalty fare etc? she said 'can you
just answer the question please'?

All in all very intimidation. I have had a letter from LU, explaining
they may take legal action and asking me for any comment.

I explained the circumstances, apologised, asked if we could avoid
going to court, accepted responsiblity and requested they tell me how
much the fine will be and I will send them a cheque.

Any idea how they normally behave in these circumstances?

Any help much appreciated

Many thanks

Mumtaz



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Old June 11th 04, 04:14 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Hi there

Thanks for your feedback.

If this is the first time it's happened to me, how likely is it that
it will go to the crown prosecutions?

And what is the difference in consequences if you go to crown
prosectuions rather than go before magistrates?

Thanks again

Mumtaz




"SJCWHUK" wrote in message ...
Hmmmm,

Telling the inspector that you got on at a different station was not a good
idea, I assume they then checked the ticket and found otherwise.

It is not LUL you have to persuade it will be the Magistrates Court if they
prosecute you.

The chances are you will either be:

1) Given a warning
2) Have a private prosecution (by LUL) in the Magistrates Court
3) Passed to the BTP (British Transport Police) for a crown prosecution.


"Monnie" wrote in message
om...
Hi There

A few weks ago, I took a different route into work as I had missed the
overland train.

Hence I got onto the tube at a Zone 3 station and got out at a Zone 2
station on a 2 to 3 Travelcard. But I'd forgotten that I needed a Zone
1 extension as I was passing through Zone 1.

Anyway, Revenue Prosecutions were on the other end - truly I wasnt
thinking clearly at the time as I should have just gone up to them,
explained Id forgotten to get an extension etc.

However, I vokuntarily gave my ticket for checking and then stupidly
panicked and lied when asked where I had got on.

Obviously this is enough for the inspector to feel that I had tried to
defraud LU? However, she did not give me much of a chance to explain!

One of her questions was 'do you have any money on you'? I said yes a
bit how much do you want for the penalty fare etc? she said 'can you
just answer the question please'?

All in all very intimidation. I have had a letter from LU, explaining
they may take legal action and asking me for any comment.

I explained the circumstances, apologised, asked if we could avoid
going to court, accepted responsiblity and requested they tell me how
much the fine will be and I will send them a cheque.

Any idea how they normally behave in these circumstances?

Any help much appreciated

Many thanks

Mumtaz

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