I've just realised something quite shocking. If I'd got onto
Thameslink whilst within LU fare control and changed at Luton (I had
plenty of time - there's a big gap before the 2340), I could have got
from Kingston to Leicester for 5p. This really takes the ****. No
wonder our railways are losing money.

Possibly. However, that line is usually quite well manned by TIs, especially
in the evenings when the ticket offices are closed. In fact you are almost
guaranteed to get one unless the train is packed due to people returning
from some sporting event.

Marcus

What about get back on a main line service with your 5p permit to
travel, and go one stop to London Waterloo ?

"The Grand Duchess" wrote in message
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What about get back on a main line service with your 5p permit to
travel, and go one stop to London Waterloo ?

This would be unreasonable to expect, given that he's trying to get from
Vauxhall to KXSP to catch the last train of the evening...

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Does anyone know what I ought to have done?

Exactly what you did do except for buying a separate ticket for the tube
journey.
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"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
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In article , James
writes
Does anyone know what I ought to have done?

Exactly what you did do except for buying a separate ticket for the tube
journey.
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Andrew
Am I right in saying that the permit should be purchased with coins up to
the value of the ticket required and by not doing so he is liable for a
penalty fare if it can be proven that he had coins to that value?

Jim

In article , jimmy
boy writes

"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
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In article , James
writes
Does anyone know what I ought to have done?

Exactly what you did do except for buying a separate ticket for the tube
journey.
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Andrew
Am I right in saying that the permit should be purchased with coins up to
the value of the ticket required and by not doing so he is liable for a
penalty fare if it can be proven that he had coins to that value?

Jim


The signs on the PTT machines indicate this IIRC but I never put more
than a quid in and sometimes as little as 10p.
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jimmy boy wrote:
Am I right in saying that the permit should be purchased with coins up to
the value of the ticket required and by not doing so he is liable for a
penalty fare if it can be proven that he had coins to that value?

What about if he was not aware of the fare, at least he bothered to get one.
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"Joe" wrote in message
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jimmy boy wrote:
Am I right in saying that the permit should be purchased with coins up
to
the value of the ticket required and by not doing so he is liable for a
penalty fare if it can be proven that he had coins to that value?

What about if he was not aware of the fare, at least he bothered to get
one.
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True, but how many tickets can you buy for under £1? As you say at least he
bothered to get one.

Jim

"jimmy boy" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
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jimmy boy wrote:
Am I right in saying that the permit should be purchased with coins up
to
the value of the ticket required and by not doing so he is liable for a
penalty fare if it can be proven that he had coins to that value?

What about if he was not aware of the fare, at least he bothered to get
one.
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True, but how many tickets can you buy for under £1? As you say at least he
bothered to get one.

The fare was £25.40. There's no way I'd have enough coinage to insert
that much anyway. I actually wanted to pay by card when I finally
found someone who would sell me a ticket, so it seems utterly sensible
to me to put the minimum cash in, ie 5p. Which brings me on to another
point - why don't SWT stations have FastTicket machines like there
are at normal stations? Don't they want anyone to pay fares in the
evening?