Here's what the TfL journey planner recommends for Gipsy Hill to Blackheath.
Wouldn't it be quicker just to take the train direct from Gipsy Hill to
London Bridge instead of all that mucking about on different bus routes?

09:19 From Gipsy Hill (SE19)
Take Bus 3 towards Oxford Circus to Thurlow Park Road (SE21)
Buses every: 7-8 minutes
Max journey time:16 minutes.

From Thurlow Park Road (SE21)
Walk to West Dulwich.
Transfer time: 4 minutes

09:45 From West Dulwich Station
Take Bus P13 towards Streatham Bus Garage/Ice Arena to Tulse Hill Station

Change on foot. Using . Transfer time: 4 minutes

10:01 From Tulse Hill
Take OO 32442 South Central towards London Bridge to London Bridge

Change on foot. Using . Transfer time: 4 minutes

10:25 From London Bridge
Take OO 4999 South East Trains towards Dartford
or OO 4609 South East Trains towards Charlton to Blackheath

10:18 arrival at Blackheath

Max. Journey Time: 01:18; Interchanges: 3
Price: £ 2.0 for adults, £ 0.80 for children

Solar Penguin wrote:
Here's what the TfL journey planner recommends for Gipsy Hill to
Blackheath. Wouldn't it be quicker just to take the train direct
from Gipsy Hill to London Bridge instead of all that mucking about
on different bus routes?

09:19 From Gipsy Hill (SE19)
Take Bus 3 towards Oxford Circus to Thurlow Park Road (SE21)
Buses every: 7-8 minutes
Max journey time:16 minutes.

rest of journey snipped

10:18 arrival at Blackheath

Actually it's 10:37 arrival at Blackheath. (10:18 is arrival at London
Bridge)


Your chosen starting point is evidently a bus stop on the No. 3 route,
and is 8 minutes' (default speed) walk from Gipsy Hill station. For
some reason the Journey Planner is reluctant to offer a walk+trains
solution. Even if you exclude buses, it doesn't manage to find such a
route.

Starting at 09:19 from your bus stop, a walk + 3 trains would give an
arrival at 10:07, or a walk + 2 trains at 10:18.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote...

Solar Penguin wrote:
Here's what the TfL journey planner recommends for Gipsy Hill to
Blackheath. Wouldn't it be quicker just to take the train direct
from Gipsy Hill to London Bridge instead of all that mucking about
on different bus routes?

Your chosen starting point is evidently a bus stop on the No. 3 route,
and is 8 minutes' (default speed) walk from Gipsy Hill station.

Yeah, it looks like you're right. I'd assumed that "Gipsy Hill (SE19)"
referred to the road; possibly at the midpoint along the road, such as
somewhere near the station or the No.322 bus stop. Instead it seems to be
referring to the No.3 bus stop at the Paxton Green roundabout, not even on
Gipsy Hill at all. Very misleading.

Maybe they should change that option to something less confusing like
"Paxton Green/Gipsy Hill (SE19)". Who's responsible for the TfL journey
planner? How should I contact them and ask them to change it?

Solar Penguin wrote:
"Richard J." wrote...

Solar Penguin wrote:
Here's what the TfL journey planner recommends for Gipsy Hill to
Blackheath. Wouldn't it be quicker just to take the train direct
from Gipsy Hill to London Bridge instead of all that mucking about
on different bus routes?

Your chosen starting point is evidently a bus stop on the No. 3
route, and is 8 minutes' (default speed) walk from Gipsy Hill
station.

Yeah, it looks like you're right. I'd assumed that "Gipsy Hill
(SE19)" referred to the road; possibly at the midpoint along the
road, such as somewhere near the station or the No.322 bus stop.
Instead it seems to be referring to the No.3 bus stop at the Paxton
Green roundabout, not even on Gipsy Hill at all. Very misleading.

It's chosen a bus stop because you left the Location Type set to the
default of "Station or Stop". If you want to specify an address, set
the Location Type to "Address", and enter "Gipsy Hill", and it will then
offer you various locations, mostly road junctions, along Gipsy Hill.
Alternatively you can enter an actual house address, such as "23 Gipsy
Hill".

Maybe they should change that option to something less confusing
like "Paxton Green/Gipsy Hill (SE19)".

The bus stop name should correspond to the name on the bus stop itself,
possibly with the addition of a postcode.

Who's responsible for the TfL journey planner? How should I contact
them and ask them to change it?

If the bus stop name is wrong, you can use the online feedback form at
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/contact_form.shtml or send an e-mail marked
Journey Planner Feedback to

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 at 10:53:54, Solar Penguin
wrote:

Yeah, it looks like you're right. I'd assumed that "Gipsy Hill (SE19)"
referred to the road; possibly at the midpoint along the road, such as
somewhere near the station or the No.322 bus stop. Instead it seems to be
referring to the No.3 bus stop at the Paxton Green roundabout, not even on
Gipsy Hill at all. Very misleading.

You can specify, though, whether your starting point is a bus stop or
station, or a road, or even a postcode. It sounds to me as though you
didn't give the journey planner enough information!
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 6 June 2004

"Solar Penguin" wrote in
message ...
Here's what the TfL journey planner recommends for Gipsy Hill to
Blackheath.
Wouldn't it be quicker just to take the train direct from Gipsy Hill to
London Bridge instead of all that mucking about on different bus routes?

09:19 From Gipsy Hill (SE19)
Take Bus 3 towards Oxford Circus to Thurlow Park Road (SE21)
Buses every: 7-8 minutes
Max journey time:16 minutes.

Why not get the no.3 to Crystal Palace then a 202 to Blackheath?