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Michael Hoffman wrote in message news:Pine.WNT.4.58.0407190031400.1288@ZVAVZBB...
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Paul Weaver wrote: As we have one of the lowest fatality rates in the world it wouldn't surprise me if Germany was higher. What if you compare Germany accident rates to Italy or France though There's some 2002 data he http://www.bast.de/htdocs/fachthemen...glish/we2.html Motorway is about 33% higher then the UK, yet lower then France, Finland, Beligum, Ireland, Japan, etc. - which all have speed limits not far removed from ours (typically 120kph or 75mph) |
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Terry Harper wrote:
Somewhere I have a brochure produced in 1938-9 to promote industrial estates in the Forest of Dean and Chepstow area, and that shows a dual carriageway road tunnel under the Severn, running almost on the alignment of the now A49 and the first Severn Road Crossing. The A49 route is Ross-on-Wye/Hereford/Shrewsbury/Warrington/Preston (nearly). I assume you mean almost on the alignment of the original M4 Severn Bridge, now M48. -- Richard J. (to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address) |
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Paul Weaver typed: Michael Hoffman wrote in message news:Pine.WNT.4.58.0407190031400.1288@ZVAVZBB... On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Paul Weaver wrote: As we have one of the lowest fatality rates in the world it wouldn't surprise me if Germany was higher. What if you compare Germany accident rates to Italy or France though There's some 2002 data he http://www.bast.de/htdocs/fachthemen...glish/we2.html Motorway is about 33% higher then the UK, yet lower then France, Finland, Beligum, Ireland, Japan, etc. - which all have speed limits not far removed from ours (typically 120kph or 75mph) All those countries have death rates higher than ours to start with (not much higher in the case of Japan, and France's is plummetting towards our levels). I guess correlating those figures would give a better suggestion, but would require getting the speed limit data as well. Might be interesting for someone with the time. A |
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On 19 Jul 2004 12:41:27 -0700, (Paul Weaver) wrote
in message : Motorway is about 33% higher then the UK, yet lower then France, Finland, Beligum, Ireland, Japan, etc. - which all have speed limits not far removed from ours (typically 120kph or 75mph) Ever driven in Belgium? Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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Just zis Guy, you know? typed: On 19 Jul 2004 12:41:27 -0700, (Paul Weaver) wrote in message : Motorway is about 33% higher then the UK, yet lower then France, Finland, Beligum, Ireland, Japan, etc. - which all have speed limits not far removed from ours (typically 120kph or 75mph) Ever driven in Belgium? Been driven in Belgium twice. Seen very nasty crash scenes in Belgium twice. Seen very nasty crash scenes in Britain, ... , well, I can think of one or two. In 27 years. A |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:14:21 +0100, "Ambrose Nankivell"
wrote in message : Ever driven in Belgium? Been driven in Belgium twice. Seen very nasty crash scenes in Belgium twice. The idea that Belgian drivers are in some way constrained by speed limits is an amusing one, though :-) Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, JNugent wrote:
And no, I am not referring temporary limit at a set of roadworks (even though 40 is still extracting the urine a bit, even at roadworks). If you haven't done so, can I suggest you spend some time the other side of teh cones before announcing the appropriateness of speed limits through roadworks? I was in a coned-off area on an A-road once when an HGV chose to come through teh cones. It actually clipped the side of a cone I was standing with my heels against (and flung the cone a long way down teh road, while I dived off perpendicularly). Not pleasant. I was shaking so bad afterwards that I had to sit down (rather suddenly, and not in the most controlled manner, as it happens). HGV didn't stop, though if it had wandered much further across it would have done, on account of being down teh hole I was inspecting. regards, Ian SMith -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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Michael MacClancy of wrote:
As with many things, the situation with Autobahn speed limits is not as simple as it first seems. There are many stretches of Autobahn with speed limits. snip This means that even where there is not a statutory speed limit on German Autobahns personal liability and insurance considerations apply downward pressure on the top speeds. Another consideration is that Autobahn speed limits are perceived to be actively enforced. One of my German friends was caught by a camera exceeding a limit, fined and is apparently at risk of losing her licence for a repeat offence. Everyone else's view on her being caught was that it is a totally routine event and caused no surprise. In contrast, although I have UK acquaintances who have been caught speeding, I can't remember any caught on a motorway, although I know a lot more UK motorists than German ones. -- If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. Steph Peters delete invalid from lid Tatting, lace & stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm |
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Steph Peters wrote:
Another consideration is that Autobahn speed limits are perceived to be actively enforced. One of my German friends was caught by a camera exceeding a limit, fined and is apparently at risk of losing her licence for a repeat offence. Everyone else's view on her being caught was that it is a totally routine event and caused no surprise. In contrast, although I have UK acquaintances who have been caught speeding, I can't remember any caught on a motorway, although I know a lot more UK motorists than German ones. Me. Twice. 85 mph M1 and M50 -- slightly greasy solar atoms... |
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
The idea that Belgian drivers are in some way constrained by speed limits is an amusing one, though :-) They don't have much truck with the notion of leaving clear space between themselves and the vehicle in front either. Whenever I have cause to drive there, I try to do so at night. -- Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ ================================================== ========= Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter http://www.bhpc.org.uk/ ================================================== ========= |
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