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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:46:58 +0100, "Paul Weaver"
wrote in message : GErman Autobahns seem to throw that out of the window. Sure you can't design a road for "no speed whatsoever", but theres no need for a limit on many roads. At least that's what the most populous country in Euroep seems to think. Have you checked the comparitive fatality figures? Last time I looked the Autobahn was substantially more dangerous per mile travelled than our motorways. Oh, and last time I checked they also had limits on the Autobahn. Oh, and last time I checked, their other roads do have speed limits. Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in message
... On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:46:58 +0100, "Paul Weaver" wrote in message : GErman Autobahns seem to throw that out of the window. Sure you can't design a road for "no speed whatsoever", but theres no need for a limit on many roads. At least that's what the most populous country in Euroep seems to think. Have you checked the comparitive fatality figures? Last time I looked the Autobahn was substantially more dangerous per mile travelled than our motorways. Much lower then the states, but a quick gogole doesnt reveal anything. As we have one of the lowest fatality rates in the world it wouldn't surprise me if Germany was higher. What if you compare Germany accident rates to Italy or France though Oh, and last time I checked they also had limits on the Autobahn. Only in certain areas (which makes perfect sense to me, 100mph on the M5 as it joins in M6 is probably not a great idea, 100mph on the M5 from Exeter up to Bristol is generally fine) Most of the system is limitless (for cars) Oh, and last time I checked, their other roads do have speed limits. Yes they do. Of course they have a decent autobahn system which means people only travel in towns and on small roads when they are near their destination. This of course reduces traffic in and arround towns, and therfore accident rates. |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Paul Weaver wrote:
As we have one of the lowest fatality rates in the world it wouldn't surprise me if Germany was higher. What if you compare Germany accident rates to Italy or France though There's some 2002 data he http://www.bast.de/htdocs/fachthemen...glish/we2.html -- Michael Hoffman |
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Michael Hoffman wrote in message news:Pine.WNT.4.58.0407190031400.1288@ZVAVZBB...
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Paul Weaver wrote: As we have one of the lowest fatality rates in the world it wouldn't surprise me if Germany was higher. What if you compare Germany accident rates to Italy or France though There's some 2002 data he http://www.bast.de/htdocs/fachthemen...glish/we2.html Motorway is about 33% higher then the UK, yet lower then France, Finland, Beligum, Ireland, Japan, etc. - which all have speed limits not far removed from ours (typically 120kph or 75mph) |
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Paul Weaver typed: Michael Hoffman wrote in message news:Pine.WNT.4.58.0407190031400.1288@ZVAVZBB... On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Paul Weaver wrote: As we have one of the lowest fatality rates in the world it wouldn't surprise me if Germany was higher. What if you compare Germany accident rates to Italy or France though There's some 2002 data he http://www.bast.de/htdocs/fachthemen...glish/we2.html Motorway is about 33% higher then the UK, yet lower then France, Finland, Beligum, Ireland, Japan, etc. - which all have speed limits not far removed from ours (typically 120kph or 75mph) All those countries have death rates higher than ours to start with (not much higher in the case of Japan, and France's is plummetting towards our levels). I guess correlating those figures would give a better suggestion, but would require getting the speed limit data as well. Might be interesting for someone with the time. A |
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On 19 Jul 2004 12:41:27 -0700, (Paul Weaver) wrote
in message : Motorway is about 33% higher then the UK, yet lower then France, Finland, Beligum, Ireland, Japan, etc. - which all have speed limits not far removed from ours (typically 120kph or 75mph) Ever driven in Belgium? Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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Just zis Guy, you know? typed: On 19 Jul 2004 12:41:27 -0700, (Paul Weaver) wrote in message : Motorway is about 33% higher then the UK, yet lower then France, Finland, Beligum, Ireland, Japan, etc. - which all have speed limits not far removed from ours (typically 120kph or 75mph) Ever driven in Belgium? Been driven in Belgium twice. Seen very nasty crash scenes in Belgium twice. Seen very nasty crash scenes in Britain, ... , well, I can think of one or two. In 27 years. A |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:14:21 +0100, "Ambrose Nankivell"
wrote in message : Ever driven in Belgium? Been driven in Belgium twice. Seen very nasty crash scenes in Belgium twice. The idea that Belgian drivers are in some way constrained by speed limits is an amusing one, though :-) Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:36:30 +0100, "Paul Weaver"
wrote (more or less): "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:46:58 +0100, "Paul Weaver" wrote in message : GErman Autobahns seem to throw that out of the window. Sure you can't design a road for "no speed whatsoever", but theres no need for a limit on many roads. At least that's what the most populous country in Euroep seems to think. Have you checked the comparitive fatality figures? Last time I looked the Autobahn was substantially more dangerous per mile travelled than our motorways. Much lower then the states, but a quick gogole doesnt reveal anything. As we have one of the lowest fatality rates in the world it wouldn't surprise me if Germany was higher. What if you compare Germany accident rates to Italy or France though Oh, and last time I checked they also had limits on the Autobahn. Only in certain areas i.e. round about junctions... (which makes perfect sense to me, 100mph on the M5 as it joins in M6 is probably not a great idea, 100mph on the M5 from Exeter up to Bristol is generally fine) Most of the system is limitless (for cars) But the Germans are now seriously discussing restricting all autobahn. Oh, and last time I checked, their other roads do have speed limits. Yes they do. Of course they have a decent autobahn system which means people only travel in towns and on small roads when they are near their destination. This of course reduces traffic in and arround towns, and therfore accident rates. -- Cheers, Euan Gawnsoft: http://www.gawnsoft.co.sr Symbian/Epoc wiki: http://html.dnsalias.net:1122 Smalltalk links (harvested from comp.lang.smalltalk) http://html.dnsalias.net/gawnsoft/smalltalk |
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