I've been travelling on the northern line recently after a gap of a number
of years and I've noticed that the interior of the new trains is looking
decidely tired (and I'm not talking about the obligatory graffiti). Paint is
flaking off the hand rails, the doors look badly scuffed , the seat materials
grubby and of course the whole thing isn't helped by the rancid colour scheme
anyway. Is it just me or are the interiors of the trains ages fast when compared
to other stocks?

B2003

Boltar wrote:
I've been travelling on the northern line recently after a gap of a
number of years and I've noticed that the interior of the new
trains is looking decidely tired (and I'm not talking about the
obligatory graffiti).

I haven't seen any graffiti on Metronet trains (SSL and BCV) for the
last 2 months. Do they still exist on the Northern Line? If so, Tube
Lines need to learn from Metronet.
--
Richard J.
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On 5 Jul 2004 13:42:13 -0700, (Boltar) wrote:

I've been travelling on the northern line recently after a gap of a number
of years and I've noticed that the interior of the new trains is looking
decidely tired (and I'm not talking about the obligatory graffiti). Paint is
flaking off the hand rails, the doors look badly scuffed , the seat materials
grubby and of course the whole thing isn't helped by the rancid colour scheme
anyway. Is it just me or are the interiors of the trains ages fast when compared
to other stocks?

B2003

The seats are probably no grubbier than on other trains but the colour
scheme (which includes white!!) shows the dirt more.

The doors and other surfaces have been damaged by the cleaning teams
using electric polishers with abrasive compound to remove graffiti.
Probably best to have scuffing than the graffiti though.

Both of these problems would not have happened if there had been a
better choice of interior materials.

Andy

(Andy W)typed

Both of these problems would not have happened if there had been a
better choice of interior materials.

Like the red, green & black on the '38 stock?

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

I can't wait for the northern line trains to wear out and be replaced -
hopefully they will not use the same designer next time - the route maps are
cleverly concealed to the average standing person behind the hand rail above
the seats, and there's also less headroom by the doors compared to the old
trains.

ITMA wrote:
I can't wait for the northern line trains to wear out and be
replaced - hopefully they will not use the same designer next time
- the route maps are cleverly concealed to the average standing
person behind the hand rail above the seats, and there's also less
headroom by the doors compared to the old trains.

Visibility of line diagrams is poor on most tube stock. Mostly, they're
either partly obscured by hand rails, or right next to the lights so you
get dazzled, or poorly illuminated. The refurbished 73 stock on the
Piccadilly got it right.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message
...
ITMA wrote:
I can't wait for the northern line trains to wear out and be
replaced - hopefully they will not use the same designer next time
- the route maps are cleverly concealed to the average standing
person behind the hand rail above the seats, and there's also less
headroom by the doors compared to the old trains.

Visibility of line diagrams is poor on most tube stock. Mostly, they're
either partly obscured by hand rails, or right next to the lights so you
get dazzled, or poorly illuminated. The refurbished 73 stock on the
Piccadilly got it right.

'bout the only thing we did get right on the refurbs...:-(
--
Cheers, Steve.
Change from jealous to sad to reply.

In message , Steve
Dulieu writes

Visibility of line diagrams is poor on most tube stock. Mostly, they're
either partly obscured by hand rails, or right next to the lights so you
get dazzled, or poorly illuminated. The refurbished 73 stock on the
Piccadilly got it right.

'bout the only thing we did get right on the refurbs...:-(

I'm sure there must be *something* else right about them. Leave me to
have a think about it..........

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Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
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"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message
...
In message , Steve
Dulieu writes

Visibility of line diagrams is poor on most tube stock. Mostly,
they're
either partly obscured by hand rails, or right next to the lights so
you
get dazzled, or poorly illuminated. The refurbished 73 stock on the
Piccadilly got it right.

'bout the only thing we did get right on the refurbs...:-(

I'm sure there must be *something* else right about them. Leave me to
have a think about it..........

One I came home on from Arnos tonight had "This train is for closed" on the
saloon scrolling displays. Which, I have to admit, is not one I've seen
before...
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK

Though we could find you in Blackpool at the moment ;-)

--
Cheers, Steve.
Change from jealous to sad to reply.

In message , Steve
Dulieu writes

I'm sure there must be *something* else right about them. Leave me to
have a think about it..........

One I came home on from Arnos tonight had "This train is for closed" on the
saloon scrolling displays. Which, I have to admit, is not one I've seen
before...


Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK

Though we could find you in Blackpool at the moment ;-)

Well, after waiting for the staff taxi to bring me in for my 'second
'arf', I decided to make my own way back ;-)
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Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)