I always assumed that red buses was a condition of the contracts that
operators sign to run a route for London Buses / TfL. Yet Tellings
Golden Miller, Mitcham Belle and others run TfL routes with buses that
are white, yellow, striped and various other things. There are also,
of course, buses painted various colours for advertising and
promotional purposes.

What are the rules about the colour of buses?


Matt Ashby

On 6 Jul 2004 11:43:22 -0700, (Matt Ashby) wrote:

I always assumed that red buses was a condition of the contracts that
operators sign to run a route for London Buses / TfL. Yet Tellings
Golden Miller, Mitcham Belle and others run TfL routes with buses that
are white, yellow, striped and various other things. There are also,
of course, buses painted various colours for advertising and
promotional purposes.

What are the rules about the colour of buses?

ISTR it's 80% red for all new tenders, but existing routes and re-lets
are allowed to keep their existing liveries.

Thsu Metrobus can use blue buses on some routes but not others
depending upon when they got the tender.

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On 6 Jul 2004 11:43:22 -0700, (Matt Ashby) wrote:

I always assumed that red buses was a condition of the contracts that
operators sign to run a route for London Buses / TfL. Yet Tellings
Golden Miller, Mitcham Belle and others run TfL routes with buses that
are white, yellow, striped and various other things. There are also,
of course, buses painted various colours for advertising and
promotional purposes.

What are the rules about the colour of buses?

ISTR it's 80% red for all new tenders, but existing routes and re-lets
are allowed to keep their existing liveries.

Thsu Metrobus can use blue buses on some routes but not others
depending upon when they got the tender.

PRAR
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And Tellings Golden Miller and Armchair operate White/Yellow/Blue and
Orange/White buses respectively in my area, in addition to a newer red
versions on some routes.

It is a bit messy - how long is the complete tendering round? (i.e. if Ken
ordered all buses to be red 4 years ago, how much longer will it be before
they all are?).

PRAR wrote:

On 6 Jul 2004 11:43:22 -0700, (Matt Ashby) wrote:

I always assumed that red buses was a condition of the contracts that
operators sign to run a route for London Buses / TfL. Yet Tellings
Golden Miller, Mitcham Belle and others run TfL routes with buses that
are white, yellow, striped and various other things. There are also,
of course, buses painted various colours for advertising and
promotional purposes.

What are the rules about the colour of buses?

ISTR it's 80% red for all new tenders,

Only applies to buses which go into Zone 1, I believe.

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PRAR wrote:

On 6 Jul 2004 11:43:22 -0700, (Matt Ashby)
wrote:

I always assumed that red buses was a condition of the contracts
that
operators sign to run a route for London Buses / TfL. Yet Tellings
Golden Miller, Mitcham Belle and others run TfL routes with buses
that
are white, yellow, striped and various other things. There are
also,
of course, buses painted various colours for advertising and
promotional purposes.

What are the rules about the colour of buses?

ISTR it's 80% red for all new tenders,

Only applies to buses which go into Zone 1, I believe.


My understanding is the rule has changed slightly. All new contracts,
whether they go into Zone 1 or not, are requiring Red buses. And there
seems to be a cut back on the 80%, such that even more red is
required. For instance Lonon United, on new deliveries and repaints
are apparently having to remove the grey/white area around the
upstairs windows, and paint that red....

In article , (Matt Wheeler) wrote:

For instance Lonon United, on new deliveries and repaints
are apparently having to remove the grey/white area around the
upstairs windows, and paint that red....

That's ironic, when in earlier days LT buses (and trams) had white or
cream surrounds to their upstairs windows.

--
Peter Beale

Well I know they are doing something with the rules as London United already
have repainted a couple of DP's on the 72 for Stanford Brook and the new
buses for 9 are rumoured to be all red.


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On 6 Jul 2004 11:43:22 -0700, (Matt Ashby) wrote:

I always assumed that red buses was a condition of the contracts that
operators sign to run a route for London Buses / TfL. Yet Tellings
Golden Miller, Mitcham Belle and others run TfL routes with buses that
are white, yellow, striped and various other things. There are also,
of course, buses painted various colours for advertising and
promotional purposes.

What are the rules about the colour of buses?

ISTR it's 80% red for all new tenders, but existing routes and re-lets
are allowed to keep their existing liveries.

Thsu Metrobus can use blue buses on some routes but not others
depending upon when they got the tender.

PRAR
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And Tellings Golden Miller and Armchair operate White/Yellow/Blue and
Orange/White buses respectively in my area, in addition to a newer red
versions on some routes.

It is a bit messy - how long is the complete tendering round? (i.e. if Ken
ordered all buses to be red 4 years ago, how much longer will it be before
they all are?).



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On 6 Jul 2004 11:43:22 -0700, (Matt Ashby) wrote:

I always assumed that red buses was a condition of the contracts that
operators sign to run a route for London Buses / TfL. Yet Tellings
Golden Miller, Mitcham Belle and others run TfL routes with buses that
are white, yellow, striped and various other things.

TGM in my area used to be white, blue and yellow but now they are
predominantly red