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"Agustin" wrote in message news
![]() I hope this is not too much off-topic, but here goes: Someone told me that the Toyota Prius owners do not pay the Ken Livingstone tax, due to the hybrid nature of its motor. Could anyone tell me if this is true or not? I believe that, as an alternatively fuelled vehicle, it's exempt from the CC. Also, I believe that City of Westminster give concessions on parking charges to such vehicles. Robin |
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![]() "Robin Cox" wrote in message ... "Agustin" wrote in message news ![]() Also, I believe that City of Westminster give concessions on parking charges to such vehicles. Robin Wow, I didn't know that. Another good reason to consider one. |
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"JB" wrote in message
... "Robin Cox" wrote in message ... "Agustin" wrote in message news ![]() Also, I believe that City of Westminster give concessions on parking charges to such vehicles. Robin Wow, I didn't know that. Another good reason to consider one. http://www.westminster.gov.uk/roadsa...icvehicles.cfm ===== The City of Westminster is committed to a cleaner environment and therefore allows electric vehicles to park free of charge during controlled hours on Meter and Pay & Display bays throughout the City. ===== Robin |
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![]() Wow, I didn't know that. Another good reason to consider one. http://www.westminster.gov.uk/roadsa...icvehicles.cfm ===== The City of Westminster is committed to a cleaner environment and therefore allows electric vehicles to park free of charge during controlled hours on Meter and Pay & Display bays throughout the City. ===== Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I wonder? TfL doesn't think so (although they discount both). |
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JB wrote:
Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I wonder? No, a Hybrid car is a petrol engined car with electric assistance. You can easily get similar fuel consumption out of a Golf PD Diesel although some would prefer the Prius for it's alleged environmental benefits. |
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![]() "Stimpy" wrote in message ... JB wrote: Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I wonder? No, a Hybrid car is a petrol engined car with electric assistance. You can easily get similar fuel consumption out of a Golf PD Diesel although some would prefer the Prius for it's alleged environmental benefits. There are undoubtedly cars that have better CO2 or fuel figures but they are usually a) small cramp cars b) tiny slow engines with terrible performance or more usually c) a+b Besides which I reckon Diesel will be the next big crack down since 4* is gone. |
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"Stimpy" wrote in message ...
JB wrote: Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I wonder? No, a Hybrid car is a petrol engined car with electric assistance. You can easily get similar fuel consumption out of a Golf PD Diesel although some would prefer the Prius for it's alleged environmental benefits. Even the most efficient diesel does zero mpg while idling in a stationary traffic jam. The prius solves that issue in a nice way. Yes you could keep starting and stopping the engine of a normal car everytime you have to move but it won't be long before you kill the starter motor and the engine gets clogged up with gunk from constantly restarting. With hybrid cars the engine is only run in traffic when the battery is too low to adequately move the car. B2003 |
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Boltar wrote:
"Stimpy" wrote in message ... JB wrote: Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I wonder? No, a Hybrid car is a petrol engined car with electric assistance. You can easily get similar fuel consumption out of a Golf PD Diesel although some would prefer the Prius for it's alleged environmental benefits. Even the most efficient diesel does zero mpg while idling in a stationary traffic jam. The prius solves that issue in a nice way. Yes you could keep starting and stopping the engine of a normal car everytime you have to move but it won't be long before you kill the starter motor and the engine gets clogged up with gunk from constantly restarting. With hybrid cars the engine is only run in traffic when the battery is too low to adequately move the car. For comparison, official figures are Prius (all 1.5 models) - 65.7 mpg, 104 CO2, £17495 Polo (1.4 TDI) - 62.8 mpg, 120 CO2, £11035 There's a difference but not THAT great a difference, especially when you factor in the purchase price |
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"JB" wrote in message ...
Wow, I didn't know that. Another good reason to consider one. http://www.westminster.gov.uk/roadsa...icvehicles.cfm ===== The City of Westminster is committed to a cleaner environment and therefore allows electric vehicles to park free of charge during controlled hours on Meter and Pay & Display bays throughout the City. ===== Thanks for that. I had a look at their web site but didn't see anything straight away. Is a Hybrid car the same as an electric I wonder? TfL doesn't think so (although they discount both). "Please note that the above concessions do not apply to hybrid vehicles." That's that one bugger then........... |
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