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It might be more convenient for passengers if Crossrail were to be
constructed for shorter, double deck, trains. They do seem to be
popular with operators in other countries for commuter services,
e.g. Germany, USA, Australia.

Shorter trains would mean shorter walks for passengers at stations.


Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.


The French seem to manage!


Their infrastructre allows it, ours doesn't.


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In message , at 16:36:29 on Wed, 25
Aug 2004, Piccadilly Pilot remarked:
Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.


The French seem to manage!


Their infrastructre allows it, ours doesn't.


So the French have stations with double-deck platforms? Interesting.
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On 25 Aug 2004 16:10:30 GMT someone who may be Robin May
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Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.

The French seem to manage!


So do the Dutch.


So do the Americans.


They manage. However, loading and unloading large numbers of people
at central stations is slow. No great problem with small numbers of
passengers.


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Tony Day wrote:
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:10:13 +0100 someone who may be "David
Wilcox" wrote this:-

It might be more convenient for passengers if Crossrail were to be
constructed for shorter, double deck, trains. They do seem to be
popular with operators in other countries for commuter services,
e.g. Germany, USA, Australia.

Shorter trains would mean shorter walks for passengers at
stations.


Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.


The French seem to manage!


But on the RER lines with double-deck trains, they are quite slow
through central Paris, with long station dwell times, for precisely the
reason that David stated.
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:36:29 on Wed,
25 Aug 2004, Piccadilly Pilot remarked:
Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.

The French seem to manage!


Their infrastructre allows it, ours doesn't.


So the French have stations with double-deck platforms? Interesting.


If that's the spin you wish to put on my comment that's your prerogative.


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The French seem to manage!

So do the Dutch.

So do the Americans.


All of whose infrastructure allows much larger vehicles than does
the UK's network.


I was just joining in with the "name a country with double decker
trains" game!


Quite, I simply making the point for those who may not realise it, that the
underside of a continental or American bridge is further away from the rail
than are ours.


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In message , at 17:55:37 on
Wed, 25 Aug 2004, David Hansen
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They manage. However, loading and unloading large numbers of people
at central stations is slow.


I've seen the Dutch managing, and very well. Everyone who is going to
get off at a station congregates towards the vestibules, so they can get
off as soon as the doors open. None of this UK nonsense where people
look up from their paper/phone when the train has stopped and ask "is
this X", and then rush to the doors obstructing the people who are now
getting on. The Japanese also have very good discipline getting on and
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