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IT WAS A CYCLE LANE, NOT A BUS LANE


No need to waste effort shouting. We've already established that some people
can't understand the difference, even though one has a pictogram of a cycle
painted in it and the other has "BUS LANE" painted in large white letters.


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Riding my rather groovy OYbike (details to follow) up wood lane at 18:20
this evening, passed dozens of cars, vans, lorries, no problem, then, just
south of TVC, a double decker bus was blocking the lane. I peers arround

the
right but there was no way I was going to chance riding on the outside of
the traffic facing those vehicles.....


It is not very clear what the problem is here. Was the bike/bus lane the
only lane in the direction you were travelling (ie a contra flow bike lane)?


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Riding my rather groovy OYbike (details to follow) up wood lane at 18:20
this evening, passed dozens of cars, vans, lorries, no problem, then,

just
south of TVC, a double decker bus was blocking the lane. I peers arround

the
right but there was no way I was going to chance riding on the outside

of
the traffic facing those vehicles.....


It is not very clear what the problem is here. Was the bike/bus lane the
only lane in the direction you were travelling (ie a contra flow bike

lane)?

The bike lane was in the direction I was traveling. There is no bus lane.


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The bike lane was in the direction I was traveling. There is no bus lane.


So I assume there were other lanes avaliable apart from the cycle lane that
you could have used to keep going, instead of using the pavement?


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The bike lane was in the direction I was traveling. There is no bus lane.


So I assume there were other lanes avaliable apart from the cycle lane
that
you could have used to keep going, instead of using the pavement?


Going round on the outside of a bus on some roads can be dangerous as they
can pull out without looking or signalling, forcing you into the path of
oncoming traffic.




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"Adrian Boliston" wrote in message
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The bike lane was in the direction I was traveling. There is no bus

lane.

So I assume there were other lanes avaliable apart from the cycle lane
that
you could have used to keep going, instead of using the pavement?


Going round on the outside of a bus on some roads can be dangerous as they
can pull out without looking or signalling, forcing you into the path of
oncoming traffic.



I guess that can apply to any parked vehicle, and applies to practically
every road that is only two-lanes wide. It's just something that cyclists
as road users have to be aware of and deal with. You can't just get off
and use the pavement as an alternative to going round the outside every time
you need to pass a bus in London. At least not if you expect to get
anywhere in any reasonable amount of time.

Rich




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Frank X wrote:

Going round on the outside of a bus on some roads can be dangerous as they
can pull out without looking or signalling, forcing you into the path of
oncoming traffic.



You mean like the cyclist killed on Blackfriars Bridge in May
http://www.blagged.pwp.blueyonder.co...ackfriars.html

Tony
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Paul Weaver wrote:
Riding my rather groovy OYbike (details to follow) up wood lane at
18:20 this evening, passed dozens of cars, vans, lorries, no
problem, then, just south of TVC, a double decker bus was blocking
the lane.


A mandatory cycle-only lane, according to a later post of yours.

I peers arround the right but there was no way I was
going to chance riding on the outside of the traffic facing those
vehicles.


Facing what vehicles? Isn't Wood Lane a two-way road? So if the bus is
parked across the cycle lane, isn't there still room between it and the
centre line?

Had to get off and walk past the bus on the pavement. The
bus was a 220, W reg, possibly W9#XXX. When confronted his response
was "**** you".


What does "when confronted" mean? I assume you didn't enquire politely
why he was parked in the cycle lane, for which he might have had a
plausible excuse (e.g. breakdown). What exactly did you say?

Who can I complain to to ensure he loses his job,
or at the bery least is forced to ride a bike for 50 miles arround
London.


So you want to sack someone who returned your rudeness just because you
had to walk past a bus on the pavement. Grow up.

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Richard J. wrote:
So you want to sack someone who returned your rudeness just because you
had to walk past a bus on the pavement. Grow up.


If I spoke in that manner to a potential customer then I would expect to
be sacked. Why should bus drivers be any difference.

Anyway, if a professional driver takes a motor vehicle into a mandatory
cycle lane that sounds like gross incompetence to me. In any job I
would expect employees to get at the very least a written warning after
demonstrating gross incompetence.

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"Danny Colyer" wrote in message
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Anyway, if a professional driver


Regrettably, IME "professional" and "bus driver" quite often don't go
together.




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