On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:13:11 GMT someone who may be
(Nick Cooper) wrote
this:-

Of course, cars do not routinely deliberate
travel on pavements, but many cyclists certainly do.

Correct. They are inanimate objects.

However, car drivers do routinely and deliberately travel on
pavements. I see it every day.

I also see cyclists do the same thing. The one who did so outside my
office yesterday was not keen on me sweeping some broken glass
across the pavement and into the road.


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In message , at 09:54:16 on
Wed, 20 Oct 2004, David Hansen
remarked:
Of course, cars do not routinely deliberate
travel on pavements, but many cyclists certainly do.

Correct. They are inanimate objects.

However, car drivers do routinely and deliberately travel on
pavements. I see it every day.

I also see cyclists do the same thing.

I've often seen cars *on* the pavement, but rarely had difficulty with
one that was *driving* along the pavement. Never has one come close to
threatening me (although sometimes it's inconvenient to get past them).

However, I have often had collisions, or had to move very fast to avoid
one, when a cyclist has been making progress along the pavement while
ignoring the pedestrians. And no, these were not "shared use" pavements.
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:43:36 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

I've often seen cars *on* the pavement, but rarely had difficulty with
one that was *driving* along the pavement.

There are bollards on the pavement at one set of lights near me to
stop precisely this, because cars (and especially buses and goods
vehicles) were routinely driving along the footway to bypass the queue
at a set of lights.

Guy
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