In message , at 00:51:54 on
Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Jim Crowther
remarked:
Also worth noting, some Sainsbury supermarkets (and I'm sure other
places) have machines that will take any amount of small change, to be
either credited to an account, or paid back in larger denomination
coins/notes.

Having deducted a commission, I believe.
--
Roland Perry

Jim Crowther wrote to uk.transport.london on Tue, 14 Sep 2004:

Also worth noting, some Sainsbury supermarkets (and I'm sure other
places) have machines that will take any amount of small change, to be
either credited to an account, or paid back in larger denomination
coins/notes.

Best bet is to be married to the Church treasurer who never minds
changing shedloads of pennies on a Sunday night!
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 11 September 2004

In message , at 19:38:01 on Tue, 7 Sep
2004, Paul Terry remarked:
The technical explanations offered are the most likely, but also
remember that if you inserted a lot of coinage you may have exceeded
the limit on legal tender (eg a vendor is not obliged to accept 70 10p
coins in receipt for a 7 pound item).

Except the legal tender rules apply only to settling debts, not to
purchases in vending machines.
--
Roland Perry

In message , Roland
Perry writes

In message , at 19:38:01 on Tue, 7 Sep
2004, Paul Terry remarked:
The technical explanations offered are the most likely, but also
remember that if you inserted a lot of coinage you may have exceeded
the limit on legal tender (eg a vendor is not obliged to accept 70 10p
coins in receipt for a 7 pound item).

Except the legal tender rules apply only to settling debts, not to
purchases in vending machines.

That is correct. But as Graham pointed out, a vendor is free to accept
or refuse coinage as he or she wishes. In the lack of any other
guidelines I have known several who use "legal tender" as their own
chosen standard, simply to save argument (and the annoyance of carrying
several kilos of change to the bank).

However, as I wrote, the capacity of the coin holding mechanism is more
likely to be the explanation.

--
Paul Terry

In message , at 12:36:07 on Wed, 8 Sep
2004, Paul Terry remarked:
a vendor is free to accept or refuse coinage as he or she wishes. In
the lack of any other guidelines I have known several who use "legal
tender" as their own chosen standard, simply to save argument (and the
annoyance of carrying several kilos of change to the bank).

If specified in advance (several bus companies will not give change, for
example, but I don't think I've ever seen one that specified how much
change was unacceptable).

However, as I wrote, the capacity of the coin holding mechanism is more
likely to be the explanation.

In this case, yes.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message , at 12:36:07 on Wed, 8 Sep
2004, Paul Terry remarked:
a vendor is free to accept or refuse coinage as he or she wishes. In
the lack of any other guidelines I have known several who use "legal
tender" as their own chosen standard, simply to save argument (and the
annoyance of carrying several kilos of change to the bank).

If specified in advance (several bus companies will not give change, for
example, but I don't think I've ever seen one that specified how much
change was unacceptable).

On more than one occasion I've seen people pay on a 'coins in the box'
bus totally in copper. I don't know if they do it as some sort of
protest or if they're a sandwich short of a picnic?

tim

On 7 Sep 2004 02:15:34 -0700, (Graham
Hick) wrote:

This happened to me last night and I was wondering if anyone
else had come across it. I was topping up my Oyster pre-pay
card at the touch-screen ticket machine at North Greenwich,
using up all the small change in my wallet. After about £7,
the machine closed the coin slot, and threw all my coins back
into the rejected coins/change tray. It sounded like I'd won
the jackpot at Las Vegas!
[snip]
Not a major grumble, but a bit of a "head scratcher" - why was
this feature designed into the system in the first place?

as others have said there is a holding unit called an escrow that
retains your inserted notes or coins until the transaction has fully
completed. Obviously these units have a limited capacity and your volume
of coins tripped the unit out thus returning your coins to you.

Once a transaction is successfully completed the coins are moved from
the escrow either to the vault or to the change tubes in the machine.
The machine knows how much is in each tube and what needs to be kept to
try to maintain change levels.
--
Paul C


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