"Piers Connor" wrote in message


Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?


Why ask such a question ?

Since BedPan / Thameslink electrification WH PSB has sucessfully
managed to run the same railway for 15 years without routing HST to
Moorgate - or 319s to Junction Road Junction or any other
non-electrified diverging route, why would you except this happen now.


The sort of comment you have made is what leads to uninformed nonsense
appearing on the media after an accident.

--
Nick

Since BedPan / Thameslink electrification WH PSB has sucessfully
managed to run the same railway for 15 years without routing HST to
Moorgate - or 319s to Junction Road Junction or any other
non-electrified diverging route, why would you except this happen now.

A couple of years ago a 319 failed south of Bedford, and another unit was
despatched to collect it. This second unit was routed via a non-electrified
connection between the up and down lines. The pan disengaged and brought the
wires down.

Some time before that a 319 was routed into the then new Platform 4 at
Bedford station.

So, yes, it happens all the time.

Peter Goodland.

D7666 wrote:
Why ask such a question ?

Since BedPan / Thameslink electrification WH PSB has sucessfully
managed to run the same railway for 15 years without routing HST to
Moorgate - or 319s to Junction Road Junction or any other
non-electrified diverging route, why would you except this happen now.

Because people do sometimes make mistakes?

During the Ipswich Tunnel closure, an Intercity set was routed on to the
Lowestoft Line, where the was no power.
Also a few years ago, an 86+set was routed away from the wires at Norwich.

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In message , at
14:32:11 on Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Darren ] remarked:
Why ask such a question ? Since BedPan / Thameslink electrification
WH PSB has sucessfully
managed to run the same railway for 15 years without routing HST to
Moorgate - or 319s to Junction Road Junction or any other
non-electrified diverging route, why would you except this happen now.

Because people do sometimes make mistakes?

During the Ipswich Tunnel closure, an Intercity set was routed on to
the Lowestoft Line, where the was no power.
Also a few years ago, an 86+set was routed away from the wires at Norwich.

And someone posted only a week ago about a GNER E* set that was sent
onto a branch with no electrification, somewhere well north of
Peterborough I think.
--
Roland Perry

In article , D7666 wrote:
"Piers Connor" wrote in message

Any bets on how long it will it will be before a Thameslink train is routed
into a non-electrified platform at the new St Pancras?

Why ask such a question ?

Since BedPan / Thameslink electrification WH PSB has sucessfully
managed to run the same railway for 15 years without routing HST to
Moorgate - or 319s to Junction Road Junction or any other
non-electrified diverging route, why would you except this happen now.

Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric at Bedford but managed to coast into the
platform.

--

Jock Mackirdy
Bedford

"Jock Mackirdy" wrote in message
...

Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric
at Bedford but managed to coast into the platform.

I thought the brakes would immediately apply when the power failed.

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In message , John Rowland
writes
"Jock Mackirdy" wrote in message
...

Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric
at Bedford but managed to coast into the platform.

I thought the brakes would immediately apply when the power failed.

Might cause a bit of a problem in neutral sections.
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"John Rowland" wrote in message
...
"Jock Mackirdy" wrote in message
...

Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric
at Bedford but managed to coast into the platform.

I thought the brakes would immediately apply when the power failed.

Would be a bit annoying at neutral sections, where the OLE is deliberately
dead...

In article ,
John Rowland wrote:
Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric
at Bedford but managed to coast into the platform.

I thought the brakes would immediately apply when the power failed.

No, they are not. I have been on a 321 which coasted from Harrow and
Wealdstone to near Primrose Hill when the power failed.

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In message , David H Wild
writes
In article ,
John Rowland wrote:
Though not long ago a northbound T/L was routed non-electric
at Bedford but managed to coast into the platform.

I thought the brakes would immediately apply when the power failed.

No, they are not. I have been on a 321 which coasted from Harrow and
Wealdstone to near Primrose Hill when the power failed.


I have also experienced a power failure after departing Highbury &
Islington in the Drayton Park to Moorgate 'underground section' whilst
on a WAGN 313. The driver announced on the PA that we were in fact
coasting downhill and therefore should reach Essex Road without any
problems, apart from the fact that all the lights had gone out.

Even this was a bit overly pessimistic as I noticed that the lights over
the entry/exit sliding doors were still alight, even if the remaining
carriage lights had indeed been extinguished. (I found that quite
comforting.) As it happened, just as we arrived at Essex Rd, the power
came back on and so our journey to Moorgate continued without further
interruptions.

Bob.
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