Jonn Elledge wrote:
...shows Imperial Wharf and Shepherd's Bush on the West London line.

Just to clarify for others, we're talking about the ATOC London
Connections map rather than the TfL one. The URL is:
http://nrekb.com/downloads/connections.pdf

Originally the opening date for these two stations was February 2005
(can't remember where I got that from). "Summer" isn't too bad though.
Driving along the West Cross Route last weekend, I did notice that
construction appears to have started in earnest at the White City
development (at last). The slip roads from the A3220 had been in situ
and waiting for traffic for quite a while now!

By the time these stations are opened, they will probably be governed by
TfL in terms of branding (Overground Network) and fares (Tube paper
single tickets already valid between West Brompton & Willesden Jcn).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...
Jonn Elledge wrote:

...shows Imperial Wharf and Shepherd's
Bush on the West London line.

Just to clarify for others, we're talking
about the ATOC London Connections
map rather than the TfL one. The URL is:
http://nrekb.com/downloads/connections.pdf

Thanks, both.

I would love to have been at the meeting where the manager told the graphic
artist to write ATOC in huge letters all over the map.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
...
Jonn Elledge wrote:
...shows Imperial Wharf and Shepherd's Bush on the West London line.

Just to clarify for others, we're talking about the ATOC London
Connections map rather than the TfL one. The URL is:
http://nrekb.com/downloads/connections.pdf

Originally the opening date for these two stations was February 2005
(can't remember where I got that from). "Summer" isn't too bad though.
Driving along the West Cross Route last weekend, I did notice that
construction appears to have started in earnest at the White City
development (at last). The slip roads from the A3220 had been in situ
and waiting for traffic for quite a while now!

By the time these stations are opened, they will probably be governed by
TfL in terms of branding (Overground Network) and fares (Tube paper
single tickets already valid between West Brompton & Willesden Jcn).


Am I alone in thinking that the opening of Shepherd's Bush WLL station would
be a good time to rename one or other of the LUL stations? It's confusing
enough having two stations with the same name that don't provide an
interchange (see also Bethnal Green and Edgware Road); but if only one of
them provides an interchange with a third line it could start to cause
problems. An H&C station at White City would make things even more
confusing.

Jonn

"Jonn Elledge" wrote in message
...

Am I alone in thinking that the opening of
Shepherd's Bush WLL station would be a
good time to rename one or other of the LUL stations?

I agree. It would be cheaper to rename the H&C station, because it appears
on enamel signs at fewer stations than the Central one, and I think some of
those signs still refer to the Met and so need to be altered anyway.
Shepherds Bush Market would be a possible name, if a bit long.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

John Rowland wrote:
"Jonn Elledge" wrote in message
...

Am I alone in thinking that the opening of
Shepherd's Bush WLL station would be a
good time to rename one or other of the LUL stations?

I agree. It would be cheaper to rename the H&C station, because it
appears on enamel signs at fewer stations than the Central one, and
I think some of those signs still refer to the Met and so need to
be altered anyway. Shepherds Bush Market would be a possible name,
if a bit long.

The problem with that name is that it could equally well apply to
Goldhawk Road station, as the market is next to the H&C viaduct for the
whole distance between the two stations. Shepherd's Bush West?

Alternatively, wasn't there a plan to rename the Central Line station as
Shepherd's Bush Green? In fact, I'm sure I've seen that name on a line
diagram, at Greenford IIRC.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

"Jonn Elledge" wrote in message
...

Am I alone in thinking that the opening of
Shepherd's Bush WLL station would be a
good time to rename one or other of the LUL stations?

I agree. It would be cheaper to rename the H&C station, because it
appears on enamel signs at fewer stations than the Central one, and
I think some of those signs still refer to the Met and so need to
be altered anyway. Shepherds Bush Market would be a possible name,
if a bit long.


The problem with that name is that it could equally well apply to
Goldhawk Road station, as the market is next to the H&C viaduct for the
whole distance between the two stations. Shepherd's Bush West?

Alternatively, wasn't there a plan to rename the Central Line station as
Shepherd's Bush Green? In fact, I'm sure I've seen that name on a line
diagram, at Greenford IIRC.

I think plans are afoot to rename the H&C station as Shepherd's Bush
West once the WLL station opens with its Central line interchange.

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Jonn Elledge wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote...
Jonn Elledge wrote:
...shows Imperial Wharf and Shepherd's Bush on the West London line.

Just to clarify for others, we're talking about the ATOC London
Connections map rather than the TfL one. The URL is:
http://nrekb.com/downloads/connections.pdf

Originally the opening date for these two stations was February 2005
(can't remember where I got that from). "Summer" isn't too bad though.
Driving along the West Cross Route last weekend, I did notice that
construction appears to have started in earnest at the White City
development (at last). The slip roads from the A3220 had been in situ
and waiting for traffic for quite a while now!

By the time these stations are opened, they will probably be governed by
TfL in terms of branding (Overground Network) and fares (Tube paper
single tickets already valid between West Brompton & Willesden Jcn).


Am I alone in thinking that the opening of Shepherd's Bush WLL station would
be a good time to rename one or other of the LUL stations?

Am I alone in thinking that Shepherd's Bush Central should be the new
name for Shepherd's Bush (Central Line)?

It's confusing enough having two stations with the same name that don't
provide an interchange (see also Bethnal Green

....where they can repeat the trick!

and Edgware Road);

Does anyone have any suggestions for this?

but if only one of them provides an interchange with a third line it could
start to cause problems. An H&C station at White City would make things
even more confusing.

I think the best solution there is to make it one large station.

"Aidan Stanger" wrote in message
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Jonn Elledge wrote:
but if only one of them provides an interchange with a third line it
could
start to cause problems. An H&C station at White City would make things
even more confusing.

I think the best solution there is to make it one large station.

Oh no, I agree that White City should be one station. I just feel that if
from Whtie City you can get trains to two Shepherd's Bush stations, in
different places, only one of which provides interchange with the WLL then
people might get confused.

Jonn