Currently have a complement of 86 4 car units making 43 train sets. The new
ones will be 8 cars long so no wasted middle cabs, 1 complete unit
less......after all they will be ultra reliable etc etc...... And once they
are in the frequency will increase. Currently must have 1 spare train set
minimum in the contract at the depot.
The requirement for a Mon to Fri peak is 37 trains for the current timetable
introduced on 04/07/04.
As for the windows......artistic licence the man said....so he took it. I
will find out some more info on this and post later. Management (and
unions), have visited Derby and seen a mock up....

Unrelated interesting fact: Its 21.25kms from Walthamstow to Brixton and the
scheduled kms in passenger service is 16,287.4kms a day.....(not each!) Plus
all that running up the depot and back.

Mal

"Bob Adams" wrote in message
...
In message om,
writes
Picture he

http://www.transportation.bombardier...hotography.jsp
looks like a central line train on steroids........

What became of LU's "Space Train" project?
--
Bob Adams - email address:

Robin May wrote:
"John Rowland" wrote the
following in:

wrote in message
ps.com...

http://www.transportation.bombardier...hotography.jsp
looks like a central line train on steroids........

Unfortunately it lacks the 92 stock's curved windows, so you won't
be able to tip your head back and look at the clouds... ;-)

Seriously though, those windows are very small. They look like they
might be small enough to make it a bit tricky to see what station
you're at.

I don't think they are very different from 1995 or 1996 stock (not that
I'm a great fan of them). Compare with this photo of a 95 at Morden:
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?12422

The artist's view of the new Vic stock simulates a wide-angle lens,
accentuating the front and making the side windows look smaller.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004, Bob Adams wrote:

In message om,
writes
Picture he

http://www.transportation.bombardier...hotography.jsp
looks like a central line train on steroids........

What became of LU's "Space Train" project?

It was abandoned after Ken failed to get the moon included in the LT area.

tom

--
VENN DIAGRAM THAT LOOK LIKE TWO BIG CIRCLES EQUAL BAD PUBLIC POLICY.

On 25 Sep 2004 16:37:02 GMT, Robin May wrote:

"John Rowland" wrote the
following in:

wrote in message
ps.com...

http://www.transportation.bombardier...hotography.jsp
looks like a central line train on steroids........

Unfortunately it lacks the 92 stock's curved windows, so you won't
be able to tip your head back and look at the clouds... ;-)

Seriously though, those windows are very small. They look like they
might be small enough to make it a bit tricky to see what station
you're at.

Page 6 of the above-mentioned Bombardier pages has some interior shots. Lots of
space for adverts above the windows, but also what looks like full-width
passageways between carriages. With so many seats removed, it looks very
spacious indeed. It mentions the carriages are for Bakerloo-Victoria-Central.

"Richard J." wrote the following in:


Robin May wrote:
"John Rowland" wrote the
following in:

wrote in message
ps.com...

http://www.transportation.bombardier...hotography.jsp
looks like a central line train on steroids........

Unfortunately it lacks the 92 stock's curved windows, so you
won't be able to tip your head back and look at the clouds...
;-)

Seriously though, those windows are very small. They look like
they might be small enough to make it a bit tricky to see what
station you're at.

I don't think they are very different from 1995 or 1996 stock (not
that I'm a great fan of them). Compare with this photo of a 95 at
Morden: http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?12422

Actually on second thought you are right, they just looked rather small
to me at first glance. I think windows which are small (but not
unhelpfully so) is quite a good idea on the Victoria line because it
means that less light will be lost out the windows so the interior
should be a bit brighter.

--
message by the incredible Robin May.
"The British don't like successful people" - said by British failures

Who is Abi Titmuss? What is she? Why is she famous?
http://robinmay.fotopic.net

The cars will be like the bendy bus with no end car walls. A totally through
train.

Me

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:47:10 GMT, "Malcolm & Nika"
wrote:

The cars will be like the bendy bus with no end car walls. A totally through
train.

Good to see it. Articulation should provide for a much more balanced
load help to avoid trains being empty at one end and full at the other
which I find common on LUL.

Neil

--
Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK
To e-mail use neil at the above domain

"Malcolm & Nika" wrote in message
...

The cars will be like the bendy bus with
no end car walls. A totally through train.

That will be fine on the Victoria Line because it's devoid of tight curves,
but benditrains on curvier lines sound lethal. I know it works on the
Croydon trams, but they are not as packed as a tube train.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

In message , Marc Brett
writes

Page 6 of the above-mentioned Bombardier pages has some interior shots.
Lots of
space for adverts above the windows, but also what looks like full-width
passageways between carriages. With so many seats removed, it looks very
spacious indeed. It mentions the carriages are for Bakerloo-Victoria-Central.

ISTR the fully articulated (space train) concept had been abandoned for
the Victoria line in favour of more traditional stock.

The filename for the picture with the full-width passageways is
/2_EN_SubSurface_int_LowRes.jpg, which implies that it is probably the
interior of the new SSL stock.
The other interior picture has 'bakerloo' in the filename, which
probably means it's the new stock for BCV.
--
Spyke
Address is valid, but messages are treated as junk. The opinions I express do
not necessarily reflect those of the educational institution from which I post.

John Rowland wrote:

That will be fine on the Victoria Line because it's devoid of tight curves,
but benditrains on curvier lines sound lethal. I know it works on the
Croydon trams, but they are not as packed as a tube train.

This may be true in general, but trams from Wimbledon in the evening
peak are packed solid; people are left behind on the platform because
the capacity is inadequate.

--
John Ray, London UK.