Phil Richards wrote in message ET...
On 11 Oct 2004 12:49:26 -0700 Dominic said...

That's a big price increase and I intend to stock up for the next few
years, but will I be caught out? There's no expiry date on Saver
tickets, but will the design change and my stock be rendered invalid?

IIRC the price of the individual Saver tickets went up from 65p to 70p at

the beginning of this year with no change of design so I suspect the
stock won't change.

Although there is no expiry date, no doubt TfL/LOndon Buses have got
hidden somewhere in their Conditions of Carriage that they have the right

to withdraw the product when they want.

ISTR about 5 years London Buses introduced a Saver 6 "5 for the price of
6" on one ticket valid in Zone 1 only. Conductors or the driver had clip
the ticket against the next unused number. Wasn't successful and it got
withdrawn a short while after.

Will Bua Saver tickets be withdrawn altogether in a year or two?

Bearing in mind from January 2005 it will Oyster Prepay will be cheaper
(80p vs 1) after 09:30 Mon-Fri & all day weekends I reckon the Saver
product won't be around for much longer.

I think the roadside ticket machines may also have sounded the death
knell for Bus Saver Tickets, since they're both solutions to the same
problem - reducing boarding times. I wish London Buses had done more
to promote Saver Tickets and the Ticket Stops that sell them, instead
of introducing pay before you board in central London. If someone's
first experience of a London Bus is the driver telling them to get off
and probably driving off without them, they won't get a good first
impression of bus travel!

I think the roadside ticket machines may also have sounded the death
knell for Bus Saver Tickets, since they're both solutions to the same
problem - reducing boarding times.

But have they really? I'm still shocked by the amount of would-be
passengers that are kicked off buses in the Central Zone because of the fact
that they didn't realise that they had to have a ticket before they
boarded - even now (as an aside - when was this introduced? 6months? 12
months ago?).

I'm sure that some of these were tourists, and could be forgiven for their
error, especially those without a semi-decent grasp of English, but I feel
that this thing happens all too often for it to be a coincidence. Is this
"new" rule actually published outside the country?

I was in the USA on business earlier this year, and whilst waiting in the
departure lounge at JFK, I spotted a "visitors guide" (or something along
those lines) to London, published by our friends at TfL - it was dated
September 2002, and as such didn't carry any information about this, and
also hopelessly outdated prices. As it was, I'd intended to keep it and
find out just how many inaccuracies it contained, but forgot it and left it
behind. Oh well.

M

"M J Forbes" wrote in message
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I think the roadside ticket machines may also have sounded the death
knell for Bus Saver Tickets, since they're both solutions to the same
problem - reducing boarding times.

But have they really? I'm still shocked by the amount of would-be
passengers that are kicked off buses in the Central Zone because of the
fact that they didn't realise that they had to have a ticket before they
boarded - even now (as an aside - when was this introduced? 6months? 12
months ago?).

I'm sure that some of these were tourists, and could be forgiven for their
error, especially those without a semi-decent grasp of English, but I feel
that this thing happens all too often for it to be a coincidence. Is this
"new" rule actually published outside the country?

I don't think that it's published outside of london.

I live well within the London commuting area (when I'm actually
in the UK) and were it not for the fact that I take this group I wouldn't
know stuff all about this new rule.

tim

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:19:12 +0200, "tim"
wrote:


"M J Forbes" wrote in message
...
I think the roadside ticket machines may also have sounded the death
knell for Bus Saver Tickets, since they're both solutions to the same
problem - reducing boarding times.

But have they really? I'm still shocked by the amount of would-be
passengers that are kicked off buses in the Central Zone because of the
fact that they didn't realise that they had to have a ticket before they
boarded - even now (as an aside - when was this introduced? 6months? 12
months ago?).

I'm sure that some of these were tourists, and could be forgiven for their
error, especially those without a semi-decent grasp of English, but I feel
that this thing happens all too often for it to be a coincidence. Is this
"new" rule actually published outside the country?

I don't think that it's published outside of london.

I live well within the London commuting area (when I'm actually
in the UK) and were it not for the fact that I take this group I wouldn't
know stuff all about this new rule.


Indeed. I'm a regular visitor to London, and as I usually avail myself
of a Travelcard, or hop one stop or two on the tube, but I knew
nothing about it untill the discussion came up here.

Alex